What to do at SF (post-TPE)

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  1. dviss1

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    Make things up as you go along? Didn't read the thread correctly? Reading comprehension need work?

    I love Aminu and what he brings to the team...
    I just don't think he's a better starter than Moe.

    WTF are you you talking about?
     
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    I'm curious how Turner did on those stats?
     
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    He's a great value for them. If they're desperate to dump someone, not sure he'd be the guy. We'd have to send value to get him.

    He's owed as much as ET this upcoming season and will definitely pick up his option for the year after. Not sure he's an upgrade.
     
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    A second-round rookie and two players barely hanging onto their NBA careers (and arguably should not be on an NBA roster this year even).... That's not going to put too much stress on Moe.
     
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    And where did those stats come from?
     
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    Sorry - was remembering several posts throughout the season and had you confused with another poster (Blue9) for a second. He consistently bags on Chief.
     
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    You're talking about spending time in the paint and using rebounding as the stat.

    Bones is talking about offensive post ups.

    Apples/oranges
     
  8. Reep

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    Probably not the best fit for starting SF. He would look great playing next to Dame, but can't see NO trading cj for an older player at that expense, and I don't see any good value propositions for either team in that trade.
     
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    If the Wiz are interested shedding a wing to save some tax, Satoransky is the guy in whom I'm most interested.
     
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    Cool website. I'm a little confused by that section though. Virtually everywhere else Chief looks awesome. For example: The top stat. +222 Net Pts, 58.2% winning percentage, etc.
     
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    I like that idea, too. More of a SG, but certainly able to play at SF.
     
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    That's the reason I like him. I think it'd be a nice switch to have someone forward sized with guard skills. And he's simply a much better shooter than Oubre.
     
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    Yeah, kind of like if we had Will Barton or Allen Crabbe. ;)
     
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    The winning percentage is because he plays with our starters.
     
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    Aha. On second look, I get it. This doesn't make Chief's on-ball defense look very good, does it? That being said, it is his "help" defense and effort that make the biggest impact, I'd argue. Although these numbers leave things pretty open for debate...
     
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    Honestly, I'm not the best stat person around here. I take things at face value, rather than analyze them like Brianfromwa or BNM.

    With that said, I think Aminu's PER is roughly similar between the two positions, but his length is going to be much more oppressive against a small forward than it would be a power forward.
     
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    I personally I'm a little skeptical of some of the stats over at 82games. Especially when it they assign & compare positions.

    With the way the NBA is being played (and defended), there is rarely a true position battle (ie - PF vs PF) anymore.
     
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    Agreed. With the current/past roster, Aminu was the best PF we had on the team. And having him and Harkless being able to easily switch was an advantage. But, I think the Blazers would be much better having a true PF who could cover out to the arc, and having Aminu or Harkless play their best position, which would be SF. Unfortunately, unless Leonard or Swanigan step up big time, Aminu is still likely our best PF and a top three rotation big out of necessity.
     
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    its the same clusterfuck as last year at the SF/PF spot.

    and we've tried to fix SF by adding more guards and tbh i dunno what has happened at PF, but it feels like nothing.

    its still a backcourt wing n a prayer on performance and the occasional ball into nurk.

    if cj and/or dame are off on scoring, or just having another under performing night on D, then we are still in trouble exactly like we were last year.

    good news is we have lost our main rebounding force and effort guy in the paint, so there is even less reason to look outside the backcourt for any measure of success.
     

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