<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ May 2 2007, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It looks awesome. I am a huge fan of the 1st 2 films, was a weekly viewer of the '90's cartoon, and do have a few of the comic books. The only thing I hate about this movie is they made Venom as big as Spider-Man, and he has a high whine to his voice when he becomes Venom. Other than that, the movie looks awesome.</div>shut up.Venom is the only serious rival to Spider-Man.
I'll probably go see it in a couple weeks when Shrek and/or POTC 3 are also in theaters to avoid the over packed screen room.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (808Hornetsfan @ Apr 30 2007, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They said they're trying to make six Spiderman movies but the cast has not agreed yet. I'll see it eventually but this one does not seem as interesting as I want it to be. I do want to see what happens between Spidey and Green Goblin's son.</div>There was a report saying that Raimi confirmed that there would be at least 3 more installments of Spiderman. As of now McGuire is the only one of the key names who has said he/she might come back as Dunce err I mean Dunst has said she doesn't want to stick around and Raimi is still undecided.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ May 2 2007, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>shut up.Venom is the only serious rival to Spider-Man.</div>In the movie, Harry and Sandman have much bigger roles. Brock doesn't turn into Venom until they are well into the 2nd half of the film. Raimi isn't a fan of Venom, and he was sort of something they just threw in there to please all the Venom fans (which is stupid since there are more Venom fans out there than any other villain).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ May 2 2007, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In the movie, Harry and Sandman have much bigger roles. Brock doesn't turn into Venom until they are well into the 2nd half of the film. Raimi isn't a fan of Venom, and he was sort of something they just threw in there to please all the Venom fans (which is stupid since there are more Venom fans out there than any other villain).</div>So you agree with me. Thanks, I do too.
Umm, no. You said venom is the only serious rival to Spider-Man, and that's not true. In this movie he gets the smallest part of any of the 3 villains, and from everything I've heard/seen, Sandman gives him every bit as much trouble.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ May 2 2007, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Umm, no. You said venom is the only serious rival to Spider-Man, and that's not true. In this movie he gets the smallest part of any of the 3 villains, and from everything I've heard/seen, Sandman gives him every bit as much trouble.</div>Congrats, you missed the point again.
"Venom is the only serious rival to Spider-Man."In the comics he is not the only serious rival to Spider-Man, and in this movie he is getting a small part and doesn't get the chance to fu*k Peter's life up like in the comics or cartoon (or for that matter, like Doc Ock did in SM2).
Chiming in on Venom. Venom was definately a creation that gained popularity through the cartoon and him being in this film is to please the fanboys of Venom. If they wanted to do the storyline right, should have saved for a possible 4th but that is not set in stone. It's kind of like this Gwen Stacy add. They did her climatic scene from the comics already in the first movie with Mary Jane. Kind of makes her pointless to be honest and from what I read reviews wise, she is. Least with Venom, albeit a small part is sensible in being added. Eddie Brock does have a sizable role. Now back to Nitro/Justice program.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ May 2 2007, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chiming in on Venom. Venom was definately a creation that gained popularity through the cartoon and him being in this film is to please the fanboys of Venom. If they wanted to do the storyline right, should have saved for a possible 4th but that is not set in stone. It's kind of like this Gwen Stacy add. They did her climatic scene from the comics already in the first movie with Mary Jane. Kind of makes her pointless to be honest and from what I read reviews wise, she is. Least with Venom, albeit a small part is sensible in being added. Eddie Brock does have a sizable role. Now back to Nitro/Justice program.</div>I agree, he should have been saved for his own movie. But, outside of for the fanboys, I do see a reaosn for Venom in this movie. IMO, GG2 (or whatever they refer to him as) and Sandman can't carry the movie like the previous 2 villains could. Unfortunately if Venom is not brought back for a future movie, the next installments will have a problem with finding a single villain or 2 to carry the movie. Kingpin is probably the next best villain, but he was dealt with in Daredevil.Gwen Stacey IS pointless...she is not a major character who the hardcore fans really want to see, and it just adds even more plot to a PACKED movie storyline-wise.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ May 2 2007, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"Venom is the only serious rival to Spider-Man."In the comics he is not the only serious rival to Spider-Man, and in this movie he is getting a small part and doesn't get the chance to fu*k Peter's life up like in the comics or cartoon (or for that matter, like Doc Ock did in SM2).</div>The point being that Venom is by far the most interesting enemy for Spider-Man. Doc Ock is pretty damn good, too, as is Green Goblin... but SANDMAN? Regardless of fanboiz, he is the most interesting villain to me, especially since he isn't an outright villain. He sees himself as a good guy, in a way. (I agree that Kingpin would be another great villain for Spider-Man, or the Punisher (but we know that would be retarded because of experience)).When I was drinking, I read it as you saying that Venom should not be considered as important, but I suppose you were talking about size. The size thing is stupid since he can basically assume any shape.Obviously, I was exaggerating when I was talking about him being the only serious rival, but he is the most important rival (partly because Venom has an intimate knowledge of Spider-Man). He is like Joker to Batman, Lex to Superman, or Sabretooth to Wolverine.And yeah, the point is that they have F*cked up the Spider-Man movie series pretty good, but they can redeem it by making Venom awesome in this one. I don't particularly care what Raimi or any other dickhead filmmaker thinks or what they do in the movie. I am telling you how it should be partly based on the comics/cartoons and partly based on common sense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He is like Joker to Batman, Lex to Superman, or Sabretooth to Wolverine</div>Funny thing is haven't at least 2 of the 3 been killed in the first movie incarnations. That was one of the worst decisions Burton made in the first one.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>(I agree that Kingpin would be another great villain for Spider-Man, or the Punisher (but we know that would be retarded because of experience)).</div>Punisher would actually be pretty cool, only and if only they get the only man that can play him. Henry Rollins.
Can't wait to see it, loved the first two so hoping this will be as good. X-Men are my favourite comic book films (still hoping they'll make another one of them) but Spiderman is right up there. Sandman looks quite good, we'll have to see if James Osborn can be as good as Willem Defoe was as the Goblin.
I effin hate all of these comicbook movies. Along with all these animated films lately.Whatever happened to being original and making up a legit real movie?But I mean I can't blame them when the things gross so much money for some reason...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ May 1 2007, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ugh, I hate the cast's for these Spiderman movies, what a bunch of uninteresting wussies. They have that little douche-bag playing Spiderman....Comic-book movies are not my thing.</div>Yeah, I was watching Spiderman 2 last weekend with some friends......I agree, the guy as Spiderman is a complete pussy...he doesn't fit the superhero role at all...also, how does he instantly change into his Spiderman costume whenever something bad happens...?
I'm definately not going to see it on opening weekend b/c it is HELL trying to go to a movie in southern california. I saw Blades of Glory on opening night and holy sh*t, it was ridiculous.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I effin hate all of these comicbook movies. Along with all these animated films lately.Whatever happened to being original and making up a legit real movie?</div>Didn't you post you liked The Hills Have Eyes 2? That movie had a weak plotline and was a sequel. Not original one bit.Just saying, get used to most movies nowadays being unoriginal. Especially ones that get the theater greenlight(half of the movies are just moneymakers). Independent movies rarely get a legit theater run and that's where true cinema is, without the MPAA system on there necks and filmmakers care about their movie. Sequels, remakes, adaptations are the works in Hollywood right now. Because the average filmgoer sees them. Oh and I know I ranted a little on theater run movies, but not all of them are like that. I'll say a good half of them are decent to great movies. The other half not so much.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ May 3 2007, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whatever happened to being original and making up a legit real movie?</div>I guess the problem is that people want to see their childhood fantasies brought to the big screen. If you go too far off the course of what people know, it becomes a bit absurd (see: TMNT).<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ May 3 2007, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, I was watching Spiderman 2 last weekend with some friends......I agree, the guy as Spiderman is a complete pussy...he doesn't fit the superhero role at all...also, how does he instantly change into his Spiderman costume whenever something bad happens...?</div>Peter Parker is supposed to be a pussy, so in that respect, he is perfect for the role. What I don't like is that the film Spider-Man isn't funny at all. They made him cheesy, taking away one of Spider-Man's huge advantages over all the other superheroes (except for Deadpool, who is easily the funniest superhero I have ever seen).His costume is under his clothing... just like any other superhero...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ May 3 2007, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, I was watching Spiderman 2 last weekend with some friends......I agree, the guy as Spiderman is a complete pussy...he doesn't fit the superhero role at all...also, how does he instantly change into his Spiderman costume whenever something bad happens...?</div>To add onto Justice's post on how he instantly changes into the costume is that a) he does have it under his clothes at all times, and remember his DNA has been enchanced by the spider bite. Not only does that make him able to make a web, but it gives him ultra fast reflexes. He is able to move and react much faster than any human ever could. To answer the question of watching this movie, I'll probably go see it sometime, but probably not this weekend(although I will have plenty of time this weekend since there is no game 7 for me). I'm much more into the graphic novel comics and Batman. I absolutely love the Sin City series and pretty much anything that Aurthur Miller or Alan Moore. Miller is known for the Sin City series, 300, and the new Batman graphic novels. Moore has some tremendous work and has written From Hell, V for Vendetta, and The Watchmen. Watchmen is going to be made into a movie and should be awesome. :worthy:
^I think you mean Frank Miller.I just noticed CB4's quote about changing costumes. To add to what Justice and Pj said, in a universe where a guy webslings and has superpowers, you dare question how he changes his costume so fast.
