Re: Magic: "We Have To Do Some Creative Financing" <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Orlando Magic will look to sign a top free agent such as Vince Carter during the summer and perhaps also sign a point guard."We have to do some creative financing," Magic General Manager Otis Smith said."I don't think it will be as uneventful as last summer," Smith said. "We just need a couple pieces here and there. We're not that far away."</div>http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/458...tive_financing/<span style="font-family:Arial">I would love to see Vince Carter in Orlando, that would be an insane team to watch. Maybe they could go after a guy like Matt Barnes or Ruben Patterson as well. In the article, it says they are looking for a point guard. This years free agency list doesn't have many point guards available, unless they are looking to go big with Chauncey Billups or Maurice Williams (which I doubt they will considering they have Jameer Nelson)</span>
Re: Magic: "We Have To Do Some Creative Financing" I don't want Vince Carter in Orlando, as he demands to much of the ball to be effective. He is not a catch and shoot kind of person, and while he can shoot the three, it's not the most dangerous part of his game. I would much rather us try to get Rashard Lewis who can shoot the three alot better than Vince Carter can, as well as can catch and shoot better than Carter. I think he would fit the offense alot better than Vince Carter would. As for a point guard, I don't see any reason to get a point guard at all. Nelson can run the point, and while he is not a huge playmaker, he gets the ball down court and sets the ball in motion. He doesn't try to monopolize the ball to much, and control where it goes and I like that. For a backup we have Arroyo, and we also have Diener. I see no reason to go out and get a point guard, none at all. I think with our place in the draft, probably being the team to draft at 15 or 16, we could get Collison from UCLA who is a nice scorer, can hit shots, is athletic. He could end up being our starting 2-guard, with Redick coming in to replace him off the bench. Really those are the only two spots I would like to see addressed, as well as attempting to re-sign Darko Milicic if he doesn't want to much. He started to show that he has a decent scoring touch when he takes his time, and can be something good in this league in the future.
Re: Magic: "We Have To Do Some Creative Financing" I think Charlie Bell would be a huge pickup for you guys, he can play PG/SG and even SF, he's a pretty good defender and a smart player.
Re: Magic: "We Have To Do Some Creative Financing" yes I want Rashard..I wouldnt mind VC also but yer I just feel Rasahrd will fit our system much more better.
Re: Magic: "We Have To Do Some Creative Financing" I agree with everyone in the respect that the Magic need RaShard Lewis over Vince Carter. I wouldn't mind Carter as a constellation price because we desperately need a guy to share the offensive scoring load with Dwight. However, Vince commands superstar pay, and I don't feel that he's close to superstar status. He doesn't command the status of an Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, etc. He lacks the consistency to be placed among the elite in the league. RaShard Lewis gives us a much younger and much more versatile player. His three point shooting stroke is exactly what we've been lacking. As one of the worse outside shooting teams in the league, bringing in Shard and giving JJ Redick more playing time could completely turn that aspect of our game around.However, I agree with you valo on two matters: I really feel that the Magic need a playmaking point guard. I feel that Jameer Nelson could be excellent providing a spark off of the bench, but I don't think he's capable of being an effective starting point guard in the NBA. He plays like a shooting guard yet he's far too small to be moved to the 2 spot like his similar comrade Delonte West was in Boston. Jameer is a very poor playmaker, and hogs the ball a lot when he's in the game. He either jacks up bad shots or turns the ball over, and only has good games when his shot is falling, which isn't that often. When it's not, he shoots us out of games. I used to feel that Carlos Arroyo was that great pass first point guard that we needed, and that if he was shifted into the starting role that he could be as effective as he is for the Puerto Rico national team. However, Carlos was a major disappointment this year and proved to turn the ball over just as often as Jameer. I really want a point guard who can set everyone else up with good shots in Orlando.Secondly, you said that we could grab Nick Collison with the 15 or 16 slot. Maybe I misunderstood what you're saying, but right now we have no first round draft pick. That was traded to Detroit in the Kelvin Cato for Darko Milicic, Carlos Arroyo deal and was only top five protected. We do have three second rounders, however, in which I would like to snag a guy like Ron Lewis.
Re: Magic: "We Have To Do Some Creative Financing" I just think the Magic are going to regret it if they go out and overpay for a 28+ year old player who looks great now (Carter, R. Lewis). I think the PG situation is fine in Orlando, I'm not a big Jameer Nelson guy but it's not worth it for the Magic to go out and overpay for someone (Billups, Mo) there when they have an underrated guy like Travis Diener and Carlos Arroyo. If you overpay for someone this offseason, it makes it so much harder to build around Dwight Howard who is getting his check this summer. I've just seen it so many times where it fails, I hope the Magic don't go down that road. My best advice. Pick up a SG/SF and a PF/C this offseason at a reasonable price. This is a terrible FA class, don't blow the next 3 offseasons just so your roster looks sexy for next season. I really think Luke Walton could be the best signing you could make.
Re: Magic: "We Have To Do Some Creative Financing" I don't really think Lewis would be a bad signing. Vince Carter is definately a bad call but Lewis is only 26 BCB, he'll be 27 by the start of next season. Carter is 30, going on 31 next January. I think Lewis would be a great scoring threat and Orlando could finally have a consistently good SF that Grant Hill never lived up to. Rashard has an incredibly versatile game and can really run the floor. He would be very pricey but I think Orlando shouldn't pass up on this guy. As long as they don't sign him to a 9-year contract, it shouldn't be too bad. Orlando also has some room to dish out some money.
Re: Magic: "We Have To Do Some Creative Financing" You won't go after any starting point guards. With Billy Donavan there now - he is going to more likely use Jameer Nelson ALOT more. Jameer Nelson could be huge for the magic next year if they can real in some more offensive threat along with Dwight.
Re: Magic: "We Have To Do Some Creative Financing" <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Code Blue @ Jun 1 2007, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree with everyone in the respect that the Magic need RaShard Lewis over Vince Carter. I wouldn't mind Carter as a constellation price because we desperately need a guy to share the offensive scoring load with Dwight. However, Vince commands superstar pay, and I don't feel that he's close to superstar status. He doesn't command the status of an Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, etc. He lacks the consistency to be placed among the elite in the league. RaShard Lewis gives us a much younger and much more versatile player. His three point shooting stroke is exactly what we've been lacking. As one of the worse outside shooting teams in the league, bringing in Shard and giving JJ Redick more playing time could completely turn that aspect of our game around.However, I agree with you valo on two matters: I really feel that the Magic need a playmaking point guard. I feel that Jameer Nelson could be excellent providing a spark off of the bench, but I don't think he's capable of being an effective starting point guard in the NBA. He plays like a shooting guard yet he's far too small to be moved to the 2 spot like his similar comrade Delonte West was in Boston. Jameer is a very poor playmaker, and hogs the ball a lot when he's in the game. He either jacks up bad shots or turns the ball over, and only has good games when his shot is falling, which isn't that often. When it's not, he shoots us out of games. I used to feel that Carlos Arroyo was that great pass first point guard that we needed, and that if he was shifted into the starting role that he could be as effective as he is for the Puerto Rico national team. However, Carlos was a major disappointment this year and proved to turn the ball over just as often as Jameer. I really want a point guard who can set everyone else up with good shots in Orlando.Secondly, you said that we could grab Nick Collison with the 15 or 16 slot. Maybe I misunderstood what you're saying, but right now we have no first round draft pick. That was traded to Detroit in the Kelvin Cato for Darko Milicic, Carlos Arroyo deal and was only top five protected. We do have three second rounders, however, in which I would like to snag a guy like Ron Lewis.</div>Jameer Nelson didn't monopolize the ball that much at all this year, he shot alot of his shots this season on open shots from his off ball movement. Your making it sound like he just came down the court and shot, which is far from the truth. Plus Jameer Nelson had to take alot of shots, as he was one of their two best shooters that got alot of playing time. His shooting was what was going to keep players off of Howard as much in the middle. For turnovers, as the season progressed he was turning the ball over less and less, as shown by his going from 4 turnovers per game at the beginning of the season, to 2.4 turnovers per game at the end of the season.. He started out the season real shaky, but he is more than capable of being a good NBA point guard, especially with who our new coach is. With Donovan there now, he is in even better hands, as Jameer Nelson is the same type of point guard that Donovan had at Florida for the last few years. In Anthony Roberson and Taurean Green he had those point guards that was not great ball distrubutors or passers, and was better scorers than playmakers. His team's were based off of point guards that could shoot the three, and score from all over the court. They both got the ball down court, and then sent it into motion, just the same way as Jameer Nelson does, and were more like 2-guards also. So our point guard position is more than ready with just Nelson there. With Arroyo and Diener behind him, we are set. Yeah, I said that a few weeks ago, before I realized that we do not have a 1st round pick in this draft.And great post dude, I hope to see you stick around here and stay active. You seem like a good member, with lots of knowledge.
Re: Magic: "We Have To Do Some Creative Financing" <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Jun 1 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't really think Lewis would be a bad signing. Vince Carter is definately a bad call but Lewis is only 26 BCB, he'll be 27 by the start of next season. Carter is 30, going on 31 next January. I think Lewis would be a great scoring threat and Orlando could finally have a consistently good SF that Grant Hill never lived up to. Rashard has an incredibly versatile game and can really run the floor. He would be very pricey but I think Orlando shouldn't pass up on this guy. As long as they don't sign him to a 9-year contract, it shouldn't be too bad. Orlando also has some room to dish out some money.</div>Exactly right, BCB's best advice is going to cause the Magic to stay mediocre at best. There are not many good free agent SG/SF's out there as it is, as well as there are not a whole lot of good PF/C's out there. The thing is, the Magic's biggest need is someone that can take over the game with his scoring from the perimeter when our scoring gets slow, and hit the 3 ball consistently, but doesn't have to create all of his shots off on his own like Carter has to do. Rashard Lewis is a great signing for us, as he is still relatively young, is one of the best shooters in the NBA, can hit the three with consistency, and can erupt for alot of points on any given night. That will help us take alot of pressure off of Howard down low, open up from so many double teams, and allow our team to be at it's best.
