OFFICIAL Around The NBA Thread...... August

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by THE HCP, Jul 30, 2018.

  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    That's an argument that the person making it would lose quickly.
     
  2. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Here's a juicy little tidbit for the Neil haters:

    Of the GM's that signed those six players (Timofey Mozgov, Joakim Noah, Ian Mahinmi, Meyers Leonard, Bismack Biyombo and Miles Plumlee), only Neil Olshey and Ernie Grunfield are still employed by the same team they were two years ago.

    On the bright side, all but Joakim Noah, Meyers Leonard and Ian Mahinmi have been traded. So, there is still hope. Since signing their current contracts in 2016, Mozgov has been traded three time and Plumlee twice.

    BNM
     
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    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

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  4. BonesJones

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    Mozgov was attached with a recent #2 pick to a desperate Nets team then traded for Dwight, then Biyombo.

    Plumlee was traded for Dwight too.

    Shuffling chairs haha.
     
  5. H.C.

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    Not sure I completely agree with the video.
    But it does make some good points.

    @HCP won't agree though. I mean this is his second fav team.
     
  6. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yeah, I get it, but the Meyers hatred around here is so intense, I think both he and us would benefit from a change. Even if it was just trading him for a different overpriced, under-performing center on a similar contract. At least we'd get some fresh takes from the nattering nabobs.

    BNM
     
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    Says the guy that still cries about Allen Crabbe every day. Cute.
     
  8. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    You know what's even cuter? Your obsession with me.

    BNM
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Would I rather someone else be getting paid his $? Yes.
    But I wouldn't trade Nards just to trade him for an underperforming overpriced Center on a similar contract.
    Nards was a good teammate last year.
    If you're trading him and getting value back. I'm on board. But to trade him for another shit contact, is just a bad move imo.
    Who knows if that player will be as good of a teammate as Nards has shown to be.

    This is coming from someone who absolutely hates watching Nards play.
    Someone who will voice in every game thread this coming year how annoying it is to watch Nards get minutes.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Can I also voice how annoying your annoyance is in every game thread?

    J/K, i usually don't participate in the game threads. Too distracting, I'd rather focus on watching the game.

    BNM
     
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    Projecting again?
     
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    TBH I don't just voice my annoyances with his play.
    I also give credit when he plays well for him.
     
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  15. BonesJones

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    Miami would possibly send Johnson for Anderson and a future 1st (I think it'd have to be 2022 at the earliest?)

    James Johnson though? Not happening. He's the heart and soul of that team. If he's available then we BETTER go get him. If Miami's simply looking to shed the final year of his contract, then Turner and future 2nds would be better than Anderson and a future 1st, especially since Miami is in the tax (I guess Houston could offer Anderson and Zhou Qi for Johnson and Waiters, which would save Miami a lot more money, but...) I think Johnson wouuld fit perfectly as the veteran wing with playoff experience that we need, and could replace Turner's playmaking, Ed's hustle, while being able to play the 3 or 4 and defend at a very high level. He'd be switchable with Harkless and Aminu too, allowing us full switchability among the 3-4 spots for almost the entire game.

    Lillard (36) / McCollum (12)
    McCollum (23) / Curry (25)
    Harkless (30) / Johnson (15) / Curry (3)
    Johnson (15) / Aminu (25) / Collins (8)
    Nurkic (32) / Collins (16)

    Lillard 36min / McCollum 35min / Nurkic 32min / Harkless + Johnson 30min / Curry 28min / Aminu 25min / Collins 24min

    I like that squad.
     
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    Porltand would be very long.
    But like you said, I don't think Johnson is on the block.
     
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    James Johnson and dion waiters recently deleted all pictures related to the heat off their social media accounts. I’ve always had a soft spot for Johnson. Would like him on Portland. And guess who his agent is? Bartelstein!
     
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    Neil's master plan...?
     
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    Lol please. We both know they’re going to Houston for Ryno.

    But maybe a three way?
     
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    Sadly, I think a Waiters and James Johnson for Anderson and Qi deal makes too much sense. I'm calling it now, it's happening.

    It would get Miami out of the luxury tax if Bosh's salary doesn't count towards the cap. If it does, the $5M in savings saves them a TON of luxury tax payment. Miami would also save apx. $29M in 2020-2021 since Johnson and Waiters both have 3 years left compared to Anderson's two. Trading Johnson allows Adebeyo to start at PF, and clears more PT for Winslow at the 4 (since Richardson is likely entrenched as their SF going forward).

    As far as Houston goes, they're all-in right now. They're heavily committed to Paul who's aging, so 3 year deals wouldn't scare them. James Johnson and Melo starting at the forward spots makes sense, since Johnson can guard the best forward. Johnson+Capela pick n rolls could be extremely dangerous with the spacing of Paul, Harden, and Gordon (or Melo, if he recovers some shooting form). Waiters gives them insurance behind Gordon.
     

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