<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rodenbo @ May 2 2007, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the older classes, and yes they do always seem "boring" because with everyone coming out so early now, if you don't everyone just assumes you weren't good enough to come out early. I respect the guys that stay 4 years in college.</div>I like the older classes, I just think you should be NBA ready if you come into the league at 22it's one thing to have a class with a bunch of athletic 18 year old projects. It's another to have a class with a bunch of unathletic 22 year old projects
What does the term "NBA Ready" mean really? Does it mean being able to handle things under pressure? Does it mean being able to lead a team? Does it mean being able to play knowing millions and millions of fans are watching you all around the world? There are players currently in the NBA that aren't "NBA Ready" if that is the case. "NBA Ready" is a strange term associated with college players that are coming out early and we like to say they are "NBA Ready" to assure ourselves that what they are doing is correct. No one knows if anyone is truly "NBA Ready" until they actually get in the game and play. If failing to perform under pressure means you aren't "NBA Ready" there are plenty of Veterans that aren't "NBA Ready". All in all, just because someone has went to college for 4 years, doesn't mean their transition from college to the NBA will be easier because they are deemed "NBA Ready", it's all about how a person adapts to each situation.
<span style="font-family:Arial">I have always considered Roy the best player in this draft class, this was an obvious award selection.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>More Importantly... Why is it called the Eddie Gottlieb Trophy?</div><span style="font-family:Arial">It was named after Eddie Gottlieb. He used to coach the Philadelphia Warriors, he was one of the original founders of the NBA.</span></span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ May 2 2007, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the thing is that you can say that about every draft class every year, this was the oldest draft class since '94 in fact.</div>Yeah, but the main lotto picks are pretty young with alotve potential. Clearly some people simply look at stats and determine how good a player or draft class will be. If you watched any of these guys play, you can honestly say they are on track to being a star in the league.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rodenbo @ May 2 2007, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What does the term "NBA Ready" mean really?</div>An NBA ready player is able to come in and contribute right away, much like Brandon Roy or Carmelo Anthony. Someone who did not come out "NBA ready" is someone who has talent, but very raw talent. Talent that hasn't really begun to develop. If you want examples, look at guys like Sebastian Telfair, Gerald Green, Marvin Williams, Jermaine O'Neal, etc. Guys that simply are not ready to be key contributors in the NBA right away.
This should be no surprise to anybody...Roy was definitely the best rookie in the the league this year.
The thing is though CelticBalla regardless of whether he was NBA Ready of not..Roy was a senior so he had to come out anywayThat's why he was NBA ready though because he stayed in college all 4 years and got the most out of himself in college and improved all 4 yearsCongrats to him though..this was expectedI just wish that Portland had more games on national TV because this guy when I have seen him is a real treat to watch and I wish more people could see the way he plays.
Just because someone stays four years does not mean they will not be NBA Ready, as the inverse is true as well. If someone doesn't go four years, that does not mean they aren't NBA Ready. Staying for 4 years should not make you HAVE to contribute right away. Some people take time to develop but that doesn't mean they weren't NBA Ready.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ May 2 2007, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The thing is though CelticBalla regardless of whether he was NBA Ready of not..Roy was a senior so he had to come out anyway</div>What's your point? He asked what NBA ready meant, and I answered his question.
Freaking Chuck Swirsky. Hes the guy who didnt vote for Roy...---jason quick of the oregonian:Toronto television play-by-play man Chuck Swirsky e-mailed me that he voted for Raptors big man Andrea Bargnani ahead of Roy. Swirsky wrote "...there is no doubt (Roy) will win the award, and he had a terrific season, however I voted for Bargnani..."Swirsky went on to state his case for Bargnani:*He played a significant role on a playoff team*Raptors tied a franchise-record with 47 wins; Blazers won 30 (actually, Blazers won 32)*Bargnani was named Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month in January and February*In January, Bargnani averaged 11 points and 3 rebounds with 39 percent three-pointers and 94 percent free throws*In February, Bargnani averaged 14 points, 3 rebounds with 50 percent field goal, 48 percent three-pointers and 82 percent free throw*As a team during those two months, the Raptors went 18-9*Bargnani averaged 10 fewer minutes per game than Roy*Bargnani attempted an average of four fewer shots than Roy, and was the Raptors fourth option behind Chris Bosh, TJ Ford and Anthony Parker.*Bargnani hit a jumper in overtime that helped beat the Blazers in the Rose GardenOf course, Blazers fans can, and will, pick apart most of Swirsky's rationalizations. For instance, Roy won three straight Western Conference Rookie of the Month awards (January through March). He averaged 16.6 points in January and 17.2 points in February.Plus, Roy owns a long list of late-game heroics, including four three pointers in the final seconds of regulation that forced overtime. -----thats horrible back up arguments from a ridiculous, homer announcer. Ugh im angry at him right now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rodenbo @ May 2 2007, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What does the term "NBA Ready" mean really? Does it mean being able to handle things under pressure? Does it mean being able to lead a team? Does it mean being able to play knowing millions and millions of fans are watching you all around the world? There are players currently in the NBA that aren't "NBA Ready" if that is the case. "NBA Ready" is a strange term associated with college players that are coming out early and we like to say they are "NBA Ready" to assure ourselves that what they are doing is correct. No one knows if anyone is truly "NBA Ready" until they actually get in the game and play. If failing to perform under pressure means you aren't "NBA Ready" there are plenty of Veterans that aren't "NBA Ready". All in all, just because someone has went to college for 4 years, doesn't mean their transition from college to the NBA will be easier because they are deemed "NBA Ready", it's all about how a person adapts to each situation.</div>Celticballa gave a good definition of what NBA ready is.What I was trying to get at is that you don't have much promise if you're not NBA ready after four years of college. Few people develop into contributors after 22A while back there was statistical evidence showing that the longer a player stayed in college the worse they did in the NBA on average. I think that shows that NBA experience is better at training somebody to be a gamer than college experience when somebody's a project.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ May 2 2007, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Arial">It was named after Eddie Gottlieb. He used to coach the Philadelphia Warriors, he was one of the original founders of the NBA.</span>[/font]</div>Oh Thanks for the info.But sometimes BALLAHOLIC.... I think you know too much for your own good.
I know what "NBA Ready" means but when you study the term it's a very raw term. All I was meaning was that someone that doesn't even go to college could be more "NBA Ready" than someone that went 4 years, you can never tell.