Politics Manafort goes on trial tomorrow

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  1. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...sorry, I by no means meant it that way.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Look, I know quite a bit about construction but at this stage my disability prevents me from walking on a lawn without assistance or in standing for more then a very short amount of time, perhaps five minutes. When I was a bit younger than you I could walk up a latter with a heavy flu liner on my shoulder without using my hands on the ladder. Even in my 50s I was bench pressing 260 lbs. and leg pressing 560 lbs. I worked out 5 days a week for 2 1/2 hours each day. It was a combined stretching, aerobics/cardio and strength regimen. Now, I can't go to the store without a wheel chair.

    The son of a bitch took advantage of a seriously disabled combat Veteran. He died back East someplace according to sources. I'm guessing it had to do with a drug deal gone bad. He took a lot of people for a lot of money mostly in Seaside where my parents lived. My mother was one of his victims. I hope he rots in hell.

    I used to know the building code very well. I knew the UBC, UPC, UMC, NEC and Cabo codes very well. Don't have either the eyesight nor the physical ability to keep up these days.

    I was explaining to a low voltage electrician, who's gonna put in some LED lights along our walkway and aimed at our flagpole, where we currently use a solar light, how an LED works. I made one in college. I also explained how I wanted power run to our garage where I want a motion sensored light and how I need a motion sensor porch light fixture in place of our current fixture. The fixture work is really easy but I cannot get up even a step ladder nor can I operate a simple bladed screw driver in a slightly awkward position.

    You'll never know how much I regret my disability.
     
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    Its all good. I suppose you were trying to jest, rather than offend. SO its on me as well.
     
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    Damn, I knew you have some challenges at this time, I will keep you in my prayers. At least the guy is no longer able to do that stuff to people.
     
  5. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    His mom owns a prominent store in Seaside. Very nice lady. He also had a wife and small child, so, no, I'm not happy he's dead. However, it almost certainly saved a lot of other people some significant grief. Go to Gearhart Oregon and I can show you two houses where he bilked people. I'm sure there were others in Gearhart. He bilked people in Astoria, Warrenton and Longview, Washington as well as Portland and me in Aloha. He made numerous drug deals in Longview, Washington. I feel so sorry for his little boy.

    I learned later that he was actually on parole from a federal prison, the one in Sheridan. His parole officer obviously knew little to nothing about what was going on with him.
     
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  6. Chris Craig

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    It shows that the jury is going through each count, looking at the evidence, doing their due dilligence so when they come with the verdicts, people can't say they didn't, or that they are all snowflakes or orangenosers or whatever.

    However it goes, people are going to be upset.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I count my lucky stars. Somehow by some miracle which I attribute to God, I have the best wife a man could ever hope for. We love each other to the bone. I don't need wealth, health or anything else. I only need her.
     
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    Then, you are blessed, my friend.
     
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    ...yeah, I never really expected Manafort to be found guilty on all 18 counts...but the preponderance of evidence should easily put him away for a long time.
     
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    Sounds like they have come to consensus on 17 counts. Having trouble with one. They can give a partial verdict for that count. It is possible that may happen. The judge has asked them to look again at the evidence and try to come to a consensus.
     
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    Have to say, this is interesting. He is either going to have a very good day or a very bad one.
     
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    ...it will be a bad day...a VERY bad day.
     
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    I think so too. I wonder which charge/count they are having trouble with?
     
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    I know for fact that it only takes one guy to sway a jury. Most are in the middle and have never served on a jury. Make a strong argument on how A) You do not like the defendant. B) How it will effect the defendant for the rest of his life C) Get the jury involved in the "Why" of the over kill on the case and how these were the same charges from ten years ago that the gov dropped or what ever relevant angle is available.
     
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    Who knows, but I found it strange that the judge would not provide them with the help they asked for...Ellis has been an erratic dick throughout the hearing and the trial.
     
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    The fact they have come to a consensus on all the counts but one, points to some guilty verdicts.
     
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    Yeah, one guilty or one not guilty
     
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    It makes more sense that they agreed guilty on others and can't reach consensus on 1 than they agreed not guilty on all but one and can't agree on that one.
     
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    I understand that this would be your preference, but the possibility is open. You do realize that the gov is perusing charges that they had the information on for the past ten years, and decided not to prosecute at that time
     

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