OT ILLEGAL IMMGRANTS

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  1. Lanny

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    He wouldn't have been there had it not been for a prominent Republican.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-body-found-rural-area-near-students-hometown-144956162.html
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    His employer said he was a straight up guy. He also passed their background test. I doubt that his employer is at fault.

    You just aren't going to be able to stop every brutal crime. All you can do is keep it as rare as possible.

    I feel extremely sorry for the young lady's family and friends not to mention, of course, the young lady.

    As for the guy, although I feel the anger to do unthinkable things to him, my rational self says he probably needs to stay behind bars for life, since my religious and rational views prevent me from embracing the death penalty.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    More entered the U.S. under George Bush than Obama. Why not single out Bush?

    Nearly 3 Million entered under Ronald Reagan.

    Obama deported more than any other President. In fact the undocumented population remained constant under Obama.

    It's curious that Obama would get blamed and no one else.
     
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    Yeah, Ronnie got screwed by the amnesty deal, gave away the farm for border security, and then the senate never funded it....

    Oh, there are a lot of things that make me dislike obama, but like I have said, for all of the illegals, it is on the house and senate for past inaction, and the ultra friendly safe zones that are now destroying from within.
     
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    Clearly not.
     
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    Most likely the employer will be found to have knowingly hired an E-verify cheater who used fake ID. That's the usual case that sneaks through. Almost impossible to unknowingly hire an illegal alien. There are currently about 70 million hispanics in America, about one third of them are illegal aliens using fake ID.
     
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    Nonsense. It pretty much doubled in Bend, OR alone.

    Obama's "numbers" continue to be shown as fraudulent, even absurd.
     
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    You're talking about over 23 Million undocumented Hispanics. That's way way more than any other estimate I've ever seen. Just where do you get those numbers from? The estimates for all undocumented immigrants Hispanics and non Hispanics together is 11 Million.
     
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    You're saying that Bend represents the entire United States? Also, I'm guessing you've got data showing the increase in Bend. Could I see the data? Also, the increase in Bend is over what period of time? 100 years? 6 Months?

    Your statement is really hard to figure out.
     
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    What do you mean by Obama's numbers? Are they numbers made up in the Oval office by Obama in his spare time? What are you saying and why? Do you have credible evidence? What is it?
     
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    Clearly not what? That I was not defending the perp? I hope that's what you meant.
     
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    It’s generally acknowledged the number is at least 20,000,000. The 11,000,000 number originated from the Reagan amnesty and has been perpetuated as a bogus political fallback for nearly 40 years.
     
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    ...I've ask different people the same question multiple times but I'll ask again...at the risk of sounding like I'm over simplifying things;

    When we catch illegals (sometimes also with children) crossing over from Mexico to the US at the border, why are we wasting time and effort and money by then bringing these people into this country to be "processed" (fed, given medical attention, brought before a judge, etc.), instead of immediately turning them right back around at the border?...by force if necessary.
     
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    We need common sense immigration reform (the wall)
     
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    ...the wall won't stop them...what's to keep immigrants from burrowing under the wall or going around the wall?
     
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    Won't stop em all. Will stop most.
     
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    ...that's a helluva price to pay for wall that only achieves part of what it's supposed to do...a wall is not the answer and is nothing more than a neurotic obsession of Trump's...one of many.
     
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    It's against international law which we have codified by accepting a treaty regarding that law. This make it American law. The law says that if someone enters at a check point they must be given entrance if they can show that they would face persecution in their home country. A little know fact is that many such immigrants apply for assylum at a check point only to be forcibly denied entrance. Then they must either return to their home country where many face death or find a place to stay temporarily in Mexico where they also face severe and serious hardship at the hands of local Mexican gangs. Turning such people away is technically illegal.

    A process where the entrant is given a leg bracelet that tells the authorities where this person is by radio collar has been successful in over 99% of instances in assuring authorities that this person will show up in court when their entrance request is determined. The immigrant is released to a relative and there is little cost to the taxpayer.

    What we do now is throw everyone in the slammer and take away their children. There are hundreds of children who undoubtedly will never see their parents again. And this whole thing is costing a fortune.
     

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