Politics OUR NEXT PRESIDENT

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  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    He was one of the most liberal presidents ever. Probably the first of Democratic Socialists.

    Staying out of war is liberal...
     
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    Truman did a good job desegregating the armed forces.

    And Eisenhower worked at desegregating public schools.

    FDR had his hands full with the Depression and then WWII, not to mention social security.

    Good grief, even JFK was slow to get Civil Rights laws passed. It took the urging of MLK and Bobby Kennedy to light a fire under his ass.

    Make no mistake about it, I consider defacto segregation to be our no. 1 priority. To get a feel for how important it is, put yourself in someone else' shoes then it becomes a fight for yourself.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Makes sense, there's no chance she could be 100% Cherokee.

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    ...and to a certain degree, you can add Lincoln to that list.
     
  5. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I'm talking about the general tone. That's what you need to go on because we live in a democratic society where you generally have to go along with the majority, provided of course you follow the Constitution and the law.

    You're never gonna get everyone to go along with all your beliefs. You can only pick the most viable candidate who best reflects your beliefs. There are just too many instances where a third party candidate will not be viable and will ruin it for your second choice. I give you Ross Perot, Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush also George Wallace, Richard Nixon and Hubert Humphrey.
     
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    And, for that matter, Trump, Clinton, and Stein.

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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Good point.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Lots of things are liberal. FDR and Obama are the two most socialist presidents, IMO
     
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    Bullshit Obama was socialist....

    He was a HUGE corporatist.
     
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    Please name one thing Obama did that was socialist.

    And don't say Obamacare because it was in no way socialist.

    Americans don't seem to know what socialist means.
     
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    Ya, not to me. In fact I looked up most socialist presidents after your response here, and Obama is on every list.
     
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    I'm still waiting on the piece of legislation you can point to that makes him the most socialist.

    Fuck your right wing lists.

    I GUARANTEE you those aren't even centrist sources.

    There's not one liberal on the planet that would call Obama socialist.
     
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    Obama, when talking to that plumber, said when you spread the wealth around it's good for everybody. That's EXACTLY what socialism is.

    Cuba

    Wall street reform

    Obamacare

    All have socialism traits.

    Please don't misunderstand me, I don't think he is a socialist, but as a president, was one that had a lot of socialism views.
     
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    Ok
     
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    Actually I can not think of one damn thing good about FDR.
     
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    None of them are.

    Taxing progressively is tax policy.

    Wall street reform has been done in this country WELL before Obama (see Glass/Stegall). That's adding facemasking rules to football. Simple regulation.

    Obamacare had NO PUBLIC OPTION and thrust is into the arms of the PRIVATE insurance companies, giving them 35 million new customers. It's actually one of the more capitalistic process of legislation we've ever passed.

    Obama was center right.
     
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    Good. I love him even more now.
     
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    Holy hell man! Read your history! Check on who lead us into each war.
     
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    That is a good example of hard headed.
     
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