Bogus! ANOTHER HOLLYWOOD ATTEMPT TO REWRITE HISTORY

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  1. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Liberal Hollywood’s ‘First Man’ gets it all wrong – Neil Armstrong was a proud American


    By Douglas MacKinnon | Fox News
    New Neil Armstrong biopic leaves out iconic moment



    Canadian actor Ryan Gosling stars as Neil Armstrong in the highly anticipated film titled “First Man.”


    Gosling – who came out in 2015 as a fan of Bernie Sanders while later spoofing Donald Trump – was recently quoted in the Telegraphnewspaper in London explaining why the American flag was deliberately left out of a movie chronicling the greatest scientific achievement in American history.


    When asked by the paper if the film was an “un-American take on the moon landing,” the liberal actor replied that Armstrong’s accomplishment “transcended countries and borders.”


    Gosling further explained: “I think this was widely regarded in the end as a human achievement and that’s how we chose to view it.
    I also think Neil was extremely humble, as were many of these astronauts, and time and time again he deferred the focus from himself to the 400,000 people who made the mission possible…So I don’t think that Neil viewed himself as an American hero…”


    That is Gosling’s viewpoint. One could also wonder if he, the Canadian director and others in Hollywood wanted the film to incorporate revisionist history to push an ideological viewpoint of today.


    In 1988, while working at the Reagan White House, I was afforded the rare opportunity to sit down one-on-one with Armstrong in the White House and it was, and is, one of the highest honors of my life. I was conducting interviews at the time for my first book, “Footprints – The 12 Men who walked on the Moon Reflect on their Flights, their Lives, and the Future.”


    Armstrong and I spoke for about an hour and he could not have been nicer or kinder. He sensed I was nervous and put me at ease immediately by turning the tables and asking me questions about my background and my life. Even though I had heard he did not like to give autographs, when I mentioned my then-9-year-old niece Chrissy and 10-year-old nephew Christopher, he signed something to both on White House stationary.


    Gosling is correct about one thing for sure. Armstrong was beyond humble. Weeks after our interview, he called me to ask that I not use it. He told me how very sorry he was to ask, but that upon further reflection, he was not comfortable talking about himself and did not want anyone to get the impression that the mission was about him.


    I agreed immediately with his request.


    While greatly disappointed – we ended up scrambling and using existing public quotes for the book – I was deeply impressed at how truly humble Armstrong was and how important it was to him that others receive the credit he believed they deserved.


    On that subject, Gosling was only half correct when he speculated that: “…I don’t think that Neil viewed himself as an American hero.”


    While Armstrong never viewed himself as a “hero,” he was incredibly proud to be an American. An American, who before becoming a test pilot and the first human on the moon, was a highly decorated naval aviator who flew 78 combat missions during the Korean War.


    With regard to the slight against the United States and of the American flag being left out of “First Man,” Gosling jokes: “I’m Canadian, so might have cognitive bias.”


    As someone who has more relatives in Canada than the U.S. – my family making its way from Nova Scotia to Boston decades ago – I would say his bias has nothing to do with Canada and everything to do with being liberal.


    When I spoke with Armstrong back in 1988, he – along with all 11 other men who walked on the moon that I spoke with – very clearly saw the moon landing as an American achievement and was in fact, quite proud to plant the American flag in recognition of the American blood, sweat, and tears which helped get him and Buzz Aldrin to the surface.


    Revisionist history in the support of partisan ideology is always dangerous…on any side. Over the last five decades, liberals have obtained more and more control over Hollywood. Precisely because of that power, the temptation to use film to change history can be overpowering.


    That temptation acknowledged, the facts are that Armstrong felt very strongly about maintaining American preeminence in space. In 2010, Armstrong testified before the Senate saying that then-President Obama’s disappearing space program: “…presents no challenges, has no focus, and in fact, is a blueprint for a mission to nowhere.”


    While Ryan Gosling has the right to put his spin on any subject of his choosing, he is wrong in this case.


    Armstrong was a proud American who served his nation with great distinction who saw the moon landing as an American achievement worthy of an American flag being left on the surface forever in recognition of the tremendous sacrifice it took to get our nation there.


    An American flag now censored from his hands in the movie “First Man.”


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  2. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Wow, what an important topic, how a dead man might feel about a movie, and whether a flag does or does not appear in said movie.

    It makes me sad to think of how many electrons were wasted on that. Have you no shame?

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  3. SlyPokerDog

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    That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That was the FAKE NEWS version. What Armstrong actually said was "America, Fuck Yeah!"

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  5. LameR

    LameR Ha Seung-Jin Approved!

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    Maris, is your caps lock broken? Copy and paste and bolding seem to be fine.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    A link would have worked just fine. Like Shakespear said " much ado about nothing ". Maybe Nunes should investigate, lol.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    THIS SURE SOUNDS LIKE A COMPLETE WASTE OF SOMEONES TALENTS. THOUGH I GUESS HAVING A CANADIAN PORTRAY A REAL AMERICAN IS ONE MORE DIS BY THE HOLLYWOOD LIBERAL ELITE TOWARDS AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM. WATCH, THE NEXT THING THOSE HOLLYWOOD LIBERAL ELITES WILL TRY TO TELL US IS THAT THE RUSKIES GOT INTO SPACE FIRST! OR THAT THEY SENT THE FIRST WOMEN INTO SPACE!

    I WON'T FALL FOR YOUR LIES ANYMORE LIBERAL HOLLYWOOD ELITES!
     
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    I got a chance to hear NA speak at our industry convention and he's was great!
    Based on what I heard from his speech he would acknowledge that it was a man kind endeavor and also a proud American accomplishment. Nothing wrong with acknowledging both, imo.
     
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    Well maris….I've got a solution for you....don't go to the movie....even better...you should avoid any movie made in Hollywood...be proactive!
     
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    I think a better suggestion would be to have him kneel in front of a theatre the entire time it is being played. That has shown to get a people talking about issues based around the American flag.
     
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    I agree that this was an achievement for mankind, however...

    You can't truthfully tell the story if you're going to omit the American flag. The whole reason Kennedy wanted to send a man to the moon by the end of the decade was to beat the Russians. Space race. It was essentially a competition between the two countries. It's factually correct, and actually necessary to the story, to show that Apollo 11 was an American project and mission and he did plant the flag. I mean c'mon, NASA itself is an independent U.S. gov't agency and is funded by the federal government.

    That doesn't mean only American's work on the Apollo 11 program - Even an ex-Nazi was the head engineer of the Saturn V rocket and his group was under NASA.

    At the end of the day it's not asking too much to just tell the story truthfully - plant the American flag AND have Neil say, "that's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind." Neil definitely felt it was an achievement for the human race, so it shouldn't be hard to show that as well in the movie, but leaving out the American flag is revisionist history, and I HATE to agree with fox news...
     
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    That all makes sense, except that it's a movie, not a history book.

    barfo
     
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    It's a bio picture based on historical events, and omitting the American flag doesn't in any way effect the rest of the story, the drama, or the entertainment. There's really no reason to do it.
     
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    Is it accurate in every other respect?

    barfo
     
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    I have no idea. The subject of the thread was the flag so that's what I responded to.

    Just offering my opinion, I have no desire to argue about it.
     
  17. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Me neither - but I'll bet there are LOTS of ahistorical details in the movie, simply because there usually are in movies.

    Not argue? Well, that seems awfully un-American!

    barfo
     
  18. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    You guys are gonna look sooooooooooooooooo silly when it’s finally revealed that the whole moon “landing” was a giant hoax. Just sayin’............

    :smiley-smiley-049:
     
  19. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You are supposed to put that in a spoiler alert.

    barfo
     
  20. Hoopguru

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    You are correct it's a movie!
    And quite frankly it doesnt surprise me that Hollywood left it out! But that their right too.
     

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