We could add Leonard to the deal and take back Gibson. We would have to add a bit player also to make salaries match. I'm not really strong on this deal; as I have said I would rather trade CJ than Collins. I am just positing what I think Thibs would want.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...eside-justise-winslow-among-players-available Heat Trade Rumors: Hassan Whiteside, Justise Winslow Among Players Available
Here's the take from David Aldridge. He explains better what Butler wanted from Minnesota financially; claims Minnesota wants a first round pick and young veterans and does not mention Portland as a team that should be going after Butler. (Interesting to me that he thinks if Washingon offered Otto Porter, that would not be enough.) http://www.nba.com/article/2018/09/24/morning-tip-jimmy-butler-minnesota-timberwolves-future
Well, Turner and Aminu are still younger than Butler; but to give them up plus Zach Collins and a first round pick, that seems too much. Although if you consider Turner a negative and Aminu gone in a year anyway, well........
Not enough. Collins is the minimum we would need to include and that would only work if we added pick or picks and Minnesota were really high on Collins potential. They are building around Towns so I don’t know. CJ is probably the only offer that would give us a reasonable chance and beat other offers.
I kind of agree that the only way Wolves trade him to the same division / Portland CJ & Collins both would be the asking price.
How about this... Aminu, Harkless, Leonard (unless they really wanted Turner instead), Trent, and a 2019 1st rounder for Butler and Dieng Dame CJ Butler Collins Nurk Baldwin Curry Turner Layman Dieng Simons Swanigan Stauskas 2 Open Roster Spots
As much as I hate the idea of giving up Collins, that's a risk you take. No team is better at finding quality PFs, and a high energy tough guy like Swanigan might actually look good alongside Butler, despite his obvious limitations.
Im sure everyone realizes that if the Blazers don't end up with Butler, it doesn't mean that Neil didn't propose a decent enough pkg.
No way. If they dont get Butler its because Neil was golfing all week and couldnt pick up his phone!!!
I would believe that if hasn’t been on the job for 6+ years making the same excuse year after year... if that’s the case, then at some point you have to realize he is just not good at his job
I suppose I'm an idiot. Although in my defense, Olshey did remove the theoretical piece(s) necessary to propose a decent enough package.
For me it depends on what they get for him. If its something that seems likenthe Blazers could of easily beat without giving up major pieces than I’ll be annoyed. If they get a really good package for him I’ll be more ok with it.
That was CJ's best season so far but not his peak. He still has LOTS of room to grow as a defender and distributor and I predict him growing in those areas.
