Politics Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing, now with New allegations!

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Will Kavanaugh be confirmed?

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You think that is a 'hit piece'??? It reads to me like a discussion of the issue that Kavanaugh himself raised, and seems to me just an attempt to discuss what could or could not prevent him from coaching. Where is the 'hit' that I missed?

    Is there actually evidence of Soros paying any of them? Or is this hyperbole?

    Wow, you don't have much imagination.

    Here, you are just being partisan, same as him. Yeah, he thinks they are pieces of shit, because he's hyper partisan. Trouble is, judges aren't supposed to be partisan.

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    Some of you ma be surprised but what did it for me and not wanting to see Kav through, wasn't the whole he said, she said deal, as i don't actually know without a a shadow of doubt re guarding the accusation. This why I like the idea of another investigation. What did it for me was when he showed bias with his comments about Clinton, and most of you know how I feel about both Clintons.
    I Justice cannot be bias and certainly not shout it from the roof tops. If it was another position it would sway me because out of fairness both sides of the isle are about biased and partisan as you can get.
    This isn't going to get better and in fact it going to get worse, with media and the frenzy taking place. And it doesnt material it Trump, Clinton, Rubio, Blumenthol (The Viet nam vet) it will always be search and destroy from both sides. Im hoping a moderate trustworthy independent can evolve and become a legitement contender for 2020. Right now Neither side has anyone Im impressed with.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...ummm, that's part of the purpose of the investigation.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    TAH DAH !!!...winner winner, chicken dinner.
     
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    ...how many polygraphs has the accused passed?
     
  6. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    You have misread me. Which is odd, since I'm pretty open in my positions and voting record, aside from not talking about the President.
     
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    Is his accuser being looked at for a lifetime position in the highest court? No, so that comment was pretty foolish. As for his other background checks, have they already looked into these accusations? Again no, so another foolish comment.
     
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    All I can go on the perception from reading your posts. There is no crime in being a republican as I have many friends who are. I registered as an independent and with this administration I definitely lean more left but also agree with some republican viewpoints as well. In my book, Trump is poisonous to this country and has caused way more harm than good.
     
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    C'mon man....is that my MO?

    The Flake confronter is co-executive director of a community advocacy group that is Soros-backed. No judgement there, people can accept money from whoever they want to, but it's kind of a fact.


    a) I don't think they're pieces of shit because they're Democrats or progressives or Honey Nut Cheerio lovers, but because they've done things I think are shitty things to do. I'm not even talking about this case.
    b) At the risk of bringing up hypotheticals, he didn't rail against the Democrats out of partisanship, but because they were the ones that launched (what he considers to be) an attack on him. I would submit that if Flake and Collins did and said what Feinstein and Booker did and said, he would've called them out with similar vehemence. So that's not partisan, either.
    c) As far as partisanship goes, I'm in full agreement that he should recuse himself from any cases in which a 35y/o sexual harassment charge is levied against him. He's totally biased when it comes to defending himself.
    d) As far as cases of other partisanship go, the judge has a relatively lengthy record of case law and decisions built up. Not being a lawyer, I don't know how good he was at it, but I'd imagine that if he was a bad jurist he wouldn't be here, though Sotomayor had some pretty interesting interpretations and still got confirmed, so... :dunno:
     
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    To you? I wish you could explain why. No logic in that for me.
     
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    Fair enough. As I said, I have no idea what happened on a yet-to-be-determined night in 1982. If he raped her, he deserves to burn. If he didn't, his life is being torn to shit for political reasons by people who have no compunction lying. I'd have gone even further in calling out Feinstein and others in my responses. I probably wouldn't have said "I like beer" as much, but in terms of bringing up how he's been affected instead of the weeks of just being a nominee under questioning was apropro, in my eyes. But I can see how someone might not want an angry white man as a judge.
     
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    Says you. To each his own. As I've asked before, how would you have wanted him to respond, in order for you to believe him? My hypothesis is that there isn't a way, but I won't try to speak for you.
     
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    Ha!
    I hate to say it! But that Senator Blumenthal may indeed have a punchable face!!!:cool2:
     
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    He shouldn’t have responded like an entitled little brat. He shouldn’t have revealed his clear political bias, and he did. He literally did the opposite of what I want from a Supreme Court Justice.
     
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    And Trump has been known to pay people to come to his rallies. :abeer:
     
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    This is interesting, and I missed what he said about the Clintons. (And I don't know how you feel about the Clintons :) ) But he was part of Bill's Lewinsky deposition team, iirc. I'd submit he probably knows more than most about them, especially about stuff R's would've tried to dig up in the 90's. From my very limited experience with the former SecState (and my father's and friend's experience with her), I'm biased against her as well. But that's just me.

    I think (maybe naively) that there is a difference between bias in self-defense and court decisions. In terms of being a lawyer and judge and Law Professor the guys credentials seem pretty impeccable...I don't think ("think" being the operative word) that his bias (if any) has been borne out in the decade of case law and decisions in some pretty high court cases. Then again, I don't know that for sure.
    I don't know about that. Up until now, has there been anyone on the R side who's tried to "search and destroy" a candidate? Sure, Garland never got a vote (thanks, Biden), but I don't remember anyone saying "Garland's not getting a vote b/c he's a liberal piece of shit rapist". They just said "let the election matter". Kagan was, to my knowledge, a very tame confirmation (Graham was one who crossed the aisle)--the filibuster was to see if they could just not get Obama's candidate that wasn't 2nd Amendment-friendly to be someone else. Even Sotomayor's apology for her "wise Latina better than white man" remarks helped get the votes needed.
     
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    Weak heh? But than the one I would have given. Senator, I have no fucking idea.
     
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    That's just it. He hit a lot of check boxes as someone I wouldn't want as a supreme court justice.
     
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    and why would they have to? they had the votes from the very beginning to stop it and McConnel pledged that he wouldn't bring a vote as well as he stated he would make sure Obama didn't get any of his ideas passed as well. You don;t have a problem with that?
     
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    As I've said, that's fair. But do you think that his "clear political bias" (I mean, dude worked personally for W and investigated the Clintons) has been unrevealed until now? How did it affect his other case law? How did Kagan's clerkship for Marshall (known to be both partisan and activist) affect her confirmation or rulings?

    If you think his anger disqualifies him, that's fine. If you think calling out people who (if he's right) made shit up out of thin air to destroy his life for the sake of not getting a 5th conservative seat on the Court is inappropriate, then I disagree but understand.
     
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