Chicago Tribune: O'Neal wants to be a Knick

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 10 2007, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But CB32's quote kinda squashed that trade idea but still, would he really come out and say yeah I want out?</div>
Most certainly not, and that's why I'm not buying into rumors like this, especially this early.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 11 2007, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They have combined deals of $79 MIL over the next 5 years. They are no in no way good team defenders. They are soft defenders who consistently get overpowered. They can shoot the lights out when their hot, I'll give you that. But overall, the Pacers are a mess and if you think O'Neal is happy about having Dunleavy/Troy Muphy as 2nd/3rd options you're deifnately mistaken. Nobody in the league wants Murphy/Dunleavy because of their production with consideration of their contracts.</div>You have no idea. I actually watch them. They are good team defenders, and yes, they are way overpriced but they are good, solid players who are as good as anyone in terms of being built around

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You have no idea. I actually watch them. They are good team defenders, and yes, they are way overpriced but they are good, solid players who are as good as anyone in terms of being built around</div>I've seen them play too....they must be really great role players considering how they get traded from Golden St. to Indiana, Indiana then goes 15-29 after the trade meanwhile Golden St. sneaks into the playoffs and has one of the best upsets in the history of the NBA. Ask Warriors fans, these guys are not that good.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 11 2007, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've seen them play too....they must be really great role players considering how they get traded from Golden St. to Indiana, Indiana then goes 15-29 after the trade meanwhile Golden St. sneaks into the playoffs and has one of the best upsets in the history of the NBA. Ask Warriors fans, these guys are not that good.</div>they are good. the team lost after the trade because of injuries, Jamaal Tinsley, and Jermaine O'neal not at 100%

 

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A Knick is he that much of a moron? If he became a Nuggets Denver be lock for a title next season with Melo/JO/AI But the Nuggets have to give up Nene/JR/First probably more.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jamaal Tinsley</div>O'Neal only missed 8 games out of 44 after that trade and I could see that as a legit argument if he was injured more than that. But that's really not that legit of an argument. And tinsley? Are you kidding me? He's missed half of the season three years in a row. The Pacers can without Jamaal tinsely, don't even start that.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ May 11 2007, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>O'Neal only missed 8 games out of 44 after that trade and I could see that as a legit argument if he was injured more than that. But that's really not that legit of an argument. And tinsley? Are you kidding me? He's missed half of the season three years in a row. The Pacers can without Jamaal tinsely, don't even start that.</div>O'neal was injured, he was just playing through it, but he was only about 80%, you could tell. Jamaal Tinsley is the pg and pgs can make and break a team. and jamaal breaks the team.

 

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Pacers Fan Forever is delusional. Murphy is alright but is WAY overpaid. Dunleavy is a train wreck. He can shoot and that's it. The Pacers need to blow this team up and start over. I understand they needed to get rid of Jackson, but taking on these two awful contracts was a HUGE mistake. They should've just waited until the off-season and dealt him for cap relief if they were that desperate.Indiana is pathetic, and trading with New York isn't going to change anything. Who are the Knicks going to give them? Channing Frye for an all-star center isn't exactly fair, although it's a lot better than trading for Dunleavy.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Living_Legend33 @ May 11 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pacers Fan Forever is delusional. Murphy is alright but is WAY overpaid. Dunleavy is a train wreck. He can shoot and that's it. The Pacers need to blow this team up and start over. I understand they needed to get rid of Jackson, but taking on these two awful contracts was a HUGE mistake. They should've just waited until the off-season and dealt him for cap relief if they were that desperate.Indiana is pathetic, and trading with New York isn't going to change anything. Who are the Knicks going to give them? Channing Frye for an all-star center isn't exactly fair, although it's a lot better than trading for Dunleavy.</div>You want me to start looking for your posts? You're more delusional than me. And I want the Pacers to blow up, but I want it to be a blow up that will work.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You want me to start looking for your posts? You're more delusional than me. And I want the Pacers to blow up, but I want it to be a blow up that will work.</div>Then part of that blow up should be getting rid of guys like Jamaal tinsley. If Jamaal broke your team how could he miss 40 games in 2004-2005 and the Pacers make the playoffs? How could he miss 35 games in 03-04 and the Pacers were the best team in the conference? Jamaal Tinsley does not make or break the Pacers in any way. Are you sure you are a Pacers fan?

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ May 11 2007, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You want me to start looking for your posts? You're more delusional than me. And I want the Pacers to blow up, but I want it to be a blow up that will work.</div>
LL33 isn't delusional, you are, especially if you TRULY believe in that head of yours that Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy have trade value. You have got to be kidding me.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 11 2007, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LL33 isn't delusional, you are, especially if you TRULY believe in that head of yours that Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy have trade value. You have got to be kidding me.</div>I don't want to trade them. I want to rebuild with them on the team. Pay attention.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ May 11 2007, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't want to trade them. I want to rebuild with them on the team. Pay attention.</div>You're not exactly helping your case with a statement like that. Now you seem even more delusional, which I didn't think was possible. I stand corrected. Also, I fully encourage you to look through my posts and explain just how crazy I apparently am.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Living_Legend33 @ May 11 2007, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're not exactly helping your case with a statement like that. Now you seem even more delusional, which I didn't think was possible. I stand corrected. Also, I fully encourage you to look through my posts and explain just how crazy I apparently am.</div>I don't care about your posts. I'm only focused on how the Pacers could get better, an area which you have no expertise on.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ May 11 2007, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't care about your posts. I'm only focused on how the Pacers could get better, an area which you have no expertise on.</div>And apparently neither do you. Please tell me how the Pacers will improve with two (at best) mediocre players making over $17 million a season for the next 4 years. That's a third of your cap tied up in two role players. Your backcourt is horrible, your frontcourt is overcrowded, and your franchise player wants out. The Pacers are in one of the worst situations in the NBA.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Living_Legend33 @ May 11 2007, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And apparently neither do you. Please tell me how the Pacers will improve with two (at best) mediocre players making over $17 million a season for the next 4 years. That's a third of your cap tied up in two role players. Your backcourt is horrible, your frontcourt is overcrowded, and your franchise player wants out. The Pacers are in one of the worst situations in the NBA.</div>I refuse to believe that. the pacers are way better off than your team. the pacers can easily trade JO for a high pick and some good players and I'm sure Jamaal has some trade value and also the Pacers have a great frontcourt that's not overcrowded, three future faces of the franchise (Diogu, Shawne Williams, and Granger). Plus the Pacers will be getting a new coach who can hold his players accountable. The Pacers can make a title contender, I'm sure of it. Look at teams in good posistions, they haven't done anything for a while, look at teams in bad posistions, they've done stuff. The Pacers can definetley resurge.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ May 11 2007, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I refuse to believe that. the pacers are way better off than your team. the pacers can easily trade JO for a high pick and some good players and I'm sure Jamaal has some trade value and also the Pacers have a great frontcourt that's not overcrowded, three future faces of the franchise (Diogu, Shawne Williams, and Granger). Plus the Pacers will be getting a new coach who can hold his players accountable. The Pacers can make a title contender, I'm sure of it. Look at teams in good posistions, they haven't done anything for a while, look at teams in bad posistions, they've done stuff. The Pacers can definetley resurge.</div>The Celtics have Paul Pierce and Al Jefferson, two all-star level players, and a guaranteed top 5 pick. Jermain O'Neal is the Pacers only all-star level player, and he wants out. How is that a better situation? Sure you could trade O'Neal for cap space and a high pick, but who are you going to replace him with? Corey Brewer? Roy Hibbert? Joakim Noah? Yeah, that'll make your team a title contender. :no1: The bold part of the quote is just sad. Those guys are nice players, but they can't carry a team. But you go on believing a coach to be named later can ride Diogu, Williams, Granger, Dunleavy, Murphy, and whatever you get for your best player all the way to the finals. Good luck with that.

 

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Ike, Granger, and Williams are potential all star players. I know that. Just watch, the Pacers will be a lot better next year.

 

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I would send over Curry and Francis and prob maybe Collins. If we send those 3 our lineup will be nasty. But I doubt Indy would take that because of Eddy's work ethic, shape, and contract. Francis is always injured and is inconsistent but will bring points, Collins has a big upside and would benefit in Indy.

 

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Pacers Fan Forever, I give you credit for trying to defend you statements but honestly...what the hell are you talking about?