Thought on Warriors/Jazz

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    I've been thinking about this lately and I have to ask:Are AK-47 and JRich overpaid?I don't think either of them are the most famous players on their teams and possibly not even the best. JRich particularly has been overshadowed by BD and hasn't been as noticeable in this series. He could very well be contributing big time to the team, I haven't noticed but he doesn't seem to be all that important. I remember there were rumors of him being traded last offseason and I think he's tradeable.AK 47 has the same problem of not really being known and mentioned as a big time star anymore. He's also just not noticed so much and makes 10m a year.My salaries I'd give them?AK47: 7-7.5 mil a yearJRich: 6-7 mil a year.
     
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    J-Rich is not overrated at all. He is an excellent scorer, but he's been hampered with injuries this year, but he's improved in passing, rebounding, and ball handling, and he's okay with taking less shots with Jackson here. If Jack and Al weren't playing a lot, J-Rich would still score mid 20s.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ May 7 2007, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've been thinking about this lately and I have to ask:Are AK-47 and JRich overpaid?I don't think either of them are the most famous players on their teams and possibly not even the best. JRich particularly has been overshadowed by BD and hasn't been as noticeable in this series. He could very well be contributing big time to the team, I haven't noticed but he doesn't seem to be all that important. I remember there were rumors of him being traded last offseason and I think he's tradeable.AK 47 has the same problem of not really being known and mentioned as a big time star anymore. He's also just not noticed so much and makes 10m a year.My salaries I'd give them?AK47: 7-7.5 mil a yearJRich: 6-7 mil a year.</div>J-rich had knee surgery and a broken hand earlier in the year. He's still severely hampered by those injuries. When healthy he's easily worth ten mil.Not to mention that he still averaged 20-7 that series despite all that. Since when is 20-7 just worthy of 6 million dollars a year?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CABANGBANG @ May 7 2007, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>J-Rich is not overrated at all. He is an excellent scorer, but he's been hampered with injuries this year, but he's improved in passing, rebounding, and ball handling, and he's okay with taking less shots with Jackson here. If Jack and Al weren't playing a lot, J-Rich would still score mid 20s.</div>So you say he brings more than scoring? Because I don't value scoring much personally, people can make up for scoring easily.
     
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    He's developed a very good floor sense since being injured, become an above average passer, and he's an excellent rebounder for his size, most like 6'5 without shoes. He led the SG's in rebounding in either 2003 or 2004.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ May 7 2007, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>J-rich had knee surgery and a broken hand earlier in the year. He's still severely hampered by those injuries. When healthy he's easily worth ten mil.Not to mention that he still averaged 20-7 that series despite all that. Since when is 20-7 just worthy of 6 million dollars a year?</div>
     
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    Warriors are gonna get there ass beat. It's over. I'm telling you right now, the Utah Jazz are gonna take care of business, and fast.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ May 7 2007, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Warriors are gonna get there ass beat. It's over. I'm telling you right now, the Utah Jazz are gonna take care of business, and fast.</div>well, given your spotless record of predictions it must be the truth [​IMG] such as:Denver beats SASPhoenix wins championshipLakers beat Phoenixneed I continue?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ May 7 2007, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So you say he brings more than scoring? Because I don't value scoring much personally, people can make up for scoring easily.</div> Richardson has been having injury/confidence issues this year, as has Kirilenko. Richardson was paid when the team didn't have all the options it has now, can't blame the Warriors for keeping a guy like him. Kirilenko just has not developed at all on offense and is what he is from what I can see...I'm dissapointed in him, he's clearly overpaid.
     
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    *sighs*Ak has one bad year because his confidence is down due to a major injury - the man still is an awesome defender - I think he's worth the money soley based on that! Long arms quick feet blocks shots and steals - what more do you want. _ His team clearly need him to do what he's doing.JRich also steps up when required - He doesn't force his game if someone else on his team is hot and why should he - it clearly works for them.I like both these players very much - they could be the #1 guys on thier teams but choose wining instead of personal glory! Dont forget they are both comin off serious injuries.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CABANGBANG @ May 7 2007, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's developed a very good floor sense since being injured, become an above average passer, and he's an excellent rebounder for his size, most like 6'5 without shoes. He led the SG's in rebounding in either 2003 or 2004.</div>Oh don't bring that 'he's a great rebounder for an undersized player' garbage up. Marion's 6'7 and gets 11 per game and nobody even notices him and dopes on this forum say he's overrated. Marion leads SFs in rebounds every year but nobody seems to notice. 6 mil was probably low, but I think compared to other SGs I wouldn't give JRich more than 8 mil.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ May 7 2007, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh don't bring that 'he's a great rebounder for an undersized player' garbage up. Marion's 6'7 and gets 11 per game and nobody even notices him and dopes on this forum say he's overrated. Marion leads SFs in rebounds every year but nobody seems to notice. 6 mil was probably low, but I think compared to other SGs I wouldn't give JRich more than 8 mil.</div>so you're saying that if you aren't Shawn Marion then the rebounds you get don't matter?...
     
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    They matter to me but not to the others on this forum which is plainly obvious. JRich isn't a superstar anymore though, he doesn't have the star power like others at his position.
     
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    AK is over paid, even when he is at the top of his game he isn't a max player.
     
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    Is Kirilenko as bad an offensive player as he was showing last night? He just looked awkward with the ball out there. His shot looked bad, his dribbling/decision making was off, and something just looked weird.
     
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    I actually would not be surprised if Jrich was moved this off-season. Seems like Monta Ellis will be the future starting SG on that squad. Jrich has had some great nights and some not so great nights while Monta is loaded with talent. I do believe Jrich is over-payed. AK got his contract when he was dominating the NBA with his defensive prowess. Now AK only shows slight shades of his old self.
     
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    I'm expecting Utah to take it in around 6 games. Carlos Boozer is the single most underrated player in the NBA, and Golden State has no one up front who can match his versatility. Utah is gritty, unselfish, and can shoot - the traits that make a great team. Whether they can play consistently and win on the road is questionable, but they sure appear to be in their way now.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ May 8 2007, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Is Kirilenko as bad an offensive player as he was showing last night? He just looked awkward with the ball out there. His shot looked bad, his dribbling/decision making was off, and something just looked weird.</div>Yes. the sad thing is last night was one of his best offensive nights all season long. AK has never been a jump shooter, he's best around the basket and on defense.
     
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    ^ Yes but he still looked like a extremly bad as a offensive player out there, he just looked out of place, can't hit a open jumper like a normal player would.I wouldn't be suprised if AK47 decides to just be a defensive player and play no offense for the rest of his career kinda like big ben or a bruce bowen.
     

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