Politics Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing, now with New allegations!

Nobody ever has all the info on anything. We both have opinions on Kavanaugh without knowing all the info, yet we base it on what we do have. As a guy who has been both a hiring manager and who in his free time worked with some struggling people in my city and took the time to learn welfare and workforce rehabilitation programs, I know a bit about AA. I know that Washington basically removed it from the State's hiring process through Initiative 200. But I also know that I don't know everything about it, so if someone has a different story or manner that it works (or doesn't) for them I'm not going to pooh-pooh it. I'm a lifetime learner.

I feel like she has a point, and a frame of reference I don't, in speaking of the concept of "economic privilege" vs. "white privilege". And (again, as we've discussed) I don't know why the African-American community has historically voted 90%+ for (D) candidates, even ones that get crushed like Mondale, when no other demographic has such a strong correlation to almost anything...yet she points out that it's partially because any in that community talk about leaving the D party they get turned upon. (See: Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Kanye, Thomas Sowell). I'm not saying all those people are perfect or perfect representatives, but it's not something that I can or should rail about. Seems like she can, especially since it's happening with her.

 

Why don't you guys who endorse just admit you believe he is guilty but don't care because it is more important to you to have a conservative supreme court.

 

There is no political motivation in my views on Kanvanaugh and his sexual assault of Ford and others.

I have already said I don't neccessairly agree with abortions. Its not killing a baby. The fetus is not living, there is no heartbeat.

Again abortions have nothing to do with my view of Kavanaugh

 

If that was the case, then sure. Since even the FBI said there was no evidence, it becomes a political version of the Duke Rape Case. Until something else comes out.
Now, if you want to be Rasta and say that it's his "temperament under fire" that's an issue, by all means. I don't even disagree.

It's very important for me to have a strict constitutionalist Supreme Court, but I don't get to vote on that. Or else it would've been over the last 30 years. But, news flash, anyone on Trump's "short list" was going to make it a conservative court, so that straw man don't hunt. I shudder to think what's going to be the reason that people who don't want a strict constitutionalist court come up with when Barrett or Larsen takes over for RBG or someone like Thupar or Kethledge for Breyer.

 

The words you're missing from that sentence are "alleged", "unfounded" and "disproven".

You've said this twice, I don't feel like you're using the definition that most of the world uses for that. If you're saying abortions should happen up until the heartbeat is there, that's a position that a ton of people would take. That's not the law of abortion, especially not Roe v. Wade or Casey v. PP.

OK.

 

Edited. Keep it above board. There's not going to be much leeway on this thread.

 

Just talking to the underlying point here, you can't say "if it doesn't affect you, stfu" when that's what society is most definitely not. Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with going hard-core stripped-down gov't libertarian. But what that means is: "If you can't take care of your own health care, fuck you. Not my business." "You can't pay for your kids to go to school? Fuck you, not my business." "Your kid ends up in the morgue b/c of drug abuse pushed by a dealer on your street corner? Doesn't affect me, fuck you--move somewhere where there aren't dealers on the corner." Etc. I think we'd all agree that, personal views on abortion aside, minding business isn't what our country was set up for over the last century.

 

It's not about making rules for party bros. It's about making rules for the masses. I don't guess that Roe will be literally overturned, but 'states rights' will be enforced such that there are no abortions available except in the NE and the west coast. Kavanaugh's daughters will still be able to get abortions. Trump voters will not.

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