Politics "Don't be fooled" by Trumps economy

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  1. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Cup, how can I say someone is insulting you if you insult them? Neither is good.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    They said this about Obama for eight years and yet here we are.

    Now, an awful lot of people are saying that our country is being eroded at an accelerating rate. Could they all be wrong?
     
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    “A lot of people are saying”... this is what I am talking about... you value an opinion more the the actual facts and results... the unemployment at 3.7% is a 49 year low - FACT, the stock market is at a record high - FACT, renogatiated trade deals that benefit US economy - Fact... why do you ignore the actual numbers and replace with opinions as fact... what is being eroded, and who are these people??
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Why cant we all just credit where credit is due?

    Obama did some good things and this President is too.
     
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    Gronk Brady Well-Known Member

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    What good thing did Obama do? Deliver 2 billion cash to Iran over night in a cargo plane without congress approval? Or corrupting the justice department for political gains, or regulations that killed businesses? Name one thing good and I will wait...
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Okay, I learned in business that it's wise to seek out the advice of experts before leaping to a conclusion. I rely on my ability to find such experts. I would include the likes of Fareed Zakaria as an expert. Fareed is one who warns us about what's happening to our country and he explains why.

    As for the economy, I have to conclude that Obama saved our economy from a worse disaster than the Great Depression and we are rolling along largely because of that.

    Trump's contribution is from deregulation which has a terrible cost. For example, did you know that thanks to Trump it is now okay to dump mining tailings in our rivers and streams?

    Did you know that coral is dying at an alarming rate due to Global Warming which our genius President says is a hoax? What about the sea level rise in Florida and Bangladesh? Water now bubbles up through man hole covers whenever we have a high tide in Miami. Hurricanes now do much more damage than ever before. Africa is undergoing a drought of monumental proportions. The stock market is up partially as a result of a huge windfall tax reduction on large corporations and the expense? The expense is that we are now $1.5 Trillion further in debt and there is no end in sight of our massive deficit.

    Race relations couldn't be worse and children are being forcibly separated from their parents.

    Mass shootings now occur more frequently than ever before.

    Women are increasingly prohibited from legal abortion or even birth control. This is especially true of poor women.

    The list is nearly endless.

    We need that blue wave now.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    That $2 Billion was owed to them.

    There is absolutely zero evidence of the justice department being subverted until Trump came along. He is firing everyone until he gets someone who will act on his behalf. That's not how the Justice Department works, they uphold the Constitution not Trump.
    Look how many indictments and convictions Mueller has. Yes, Mueller, you know, the Republican? Oh me, they're picking on Trump with all these convictions, many of which are guilty pleas, for crying out loud.

    Come on November.
     
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    Fareed Zakaria is a partisan hack... if you believe what he is saying as fact then there is no need for me to read further... but I did so I will reply

    Race relations are worse because of liberal media like CNN... when Democrats can’t win on policy, they result to mudsliging and calling any republican racist with no basis... they know most people are too busy or lazy to research claims... that most people run with a headline as fact. Trump was in the public eye for 70 years and no one ever called him racist... he was seen hanging out with the likes of Don King, Mike Tyson and was being rapped about by every rapper... now he runs for president and he is all of a sudden racist... ok. This is the democratic playbook, identity politics... and since 90% of media is liberal they constantly push their message down your throat and ignorant people will believe it... so I put 100% of blame on media

    As for shootings, I’m anti gun, so I won’t argue with you there.

    For abortions, I don’t believe in them. Again, it’s media trying to spin this as pro choice... when the real choice is having responsible sex or giving child for adoption... ending the baby’s life should not be a choice
     
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    He did help get us out of a recession & lower unemployment rates substantially
    Ended the War in Iraq
    Got UBL
    Help Save US Automakers
    Nominated the first hispanic SCJ
    Reduce our presence in Afg.
    Shook up health care

    I wasn't a big Obama fan because I always got he feeling he was not pro business and pro big government.
    Im a libertarian that endorse small gov, pro business, and liberal to moderate on social issues.

    Its a world market place more than ever and we need to help business small & large to prosper and compete in a world arena.
     
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    You don’t pay back countries that are funding terrorist... and you don’t deliver money in cash in a cargo plane over night without anyone knowing... some shady shit right there.

    Now to the justice department... this is what actually turned me from Democrat to Republican... when Loretta Lynch met with Bill Clinton on the tarmac while Hillary was under investigation... I watched the entire 6 hour congressional hearing of Lynch getting questioned... and I was so disgusted watching her avoid answering questions under oath, obviously hiding something... this was not someone’s opinion... I watched for myself... then soon after Donna Brazille was caught giving debate question to Hillary... the Democratic Party has no ethics and it’s quire frightening
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    For someone who thinks he is 'winning' you sure come across as very angry.

    barfo
     
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    Not angry at all, very happy actually... just don’t understand how anyone can be upset about the country doing well just because of your political affiliation... it’s like getting on an airplane and hoping it crashes because you don’t like the pilot... if Trump wasn’t performing I would get it... but his economy is booming and helping everyone... I just don’t get people rooting against America
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No one is rooting against America. That's a silly thing to say.

    barfo
     
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    That is exactly what you are doing when you predict doom and gloom in the future instead of accepting the fact of what is actually happening now... people have opportunity to change their lives if they want to... the jobs are there... and you couldn’t say that during the 8 years Obama was in office... even CNN who hates Trump gave him credit yesterday
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No, a prediction of doom and gloom is not 'rooting against' anything. There is a difference between "I fear something bad will happen" and "I want something bad to happen".

    Here's the way the unemployment rate has changed over the past 10 years. You think Trump has changed the direction significantly?

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    barfo
     
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    As long as he is allowed to continue to post personal attacks, I will fire back at him any time he does.
     
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    Enough

    He is not allowed. You have both been warned
     
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    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    I call BS on that one as I have seen him all over various threads attacking posters. I call him clueless once after he personally attacked me and I will continue everytime he attacks me. Ban me if you want, but I am not putting up with this guys shit anymore.
     
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    Good riddance... please ban him
     

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