What now? Ownership, etc

After following this thread closely, I'm not optimistic. Money, money, money, controls all. It does not matter that we're good fans. It does not matter that we have a serviceable arena. Does PDX generate the most money for the NBA? No.

However. There is certainly something to be said about the stain moving the Sonics left on the league. There is certainly something to be said that I do believe Mr Allen put a stipulation in his Will (or whatever it is) that dictates the Blazers stay in Portland. How that plays into new ownership, I do not know.

@EL PRESIDENTE is't entirely wrong. This franchise could make way more money if it moved to Vegas. No lease buy-out, re-location fee, etc would stop it. A loss now is just profit later. It's an investment that would most certainly pay off

All I hope for at this point is Mr Allen bulletproof'd our ability to stay in the PAC NW at a minimum. I'm absolutely petrified. I can't unthink the owners of the NBA salivating at moving this team to Vegas, in particular.

 

So by the time the Blazers would get moved to Vegas, they’d have the NFL there already. The NHL will be more established there. Would be a much different market having to compete with the NFL. Im not disagreeing, I just dont think its a given Vegas would be ‘better’ monetarily than Portland.

 

And I think it absolutely would. I hope I'm dead wrong.

 

I'm not going to sweat it right now. I'm much more concerned about the lineup and the current teams mindset. Like the Vulcans said, Allen's will and assets are going to take "a while" to sort out. In order for us to be able to be relocated, a million things need to happen. A has to follow B and then C and so on.... But if the S2 crew want to folloe El's lead and act like it's a forgone conclusion.... like touching an infected tooth until it becomes abscessed, knock yourself out.

 

I spent a lot of time in vegas growing up and my experience there was no one really cared about sports they cared about gambling on sports but there were a whole lot of options for entertainment even without sports. Id like to see some actual data on it though.

 

I definitely, by no means, believe it's a foregone conclusion. I just think it's foolish to think it's not possible. Especially in today's sports economic climate. One thing we definitely have going for us is we're a serious up and coming market with a great fan base and a good arena. There are a ton of reasons this wouldn't happen, but there are just as many that it could. It's absolutely frightening. Paul Allen meant so much to this franchise.

Think of it like this - "but our owner has unlimited resources and he's a fan, not an owner" - that is gone. It's over. And it matters, tremendously.

 

The Vegas Golden Knights and the Vegas Raiders is all the data you need, imo.

 

Well oakland... I mean have you ever been there...?
Im not surprised the nhl went to Vegas.

HonestlyI think if the Blazers moved it would be up to seattle not NV.

 

Once again, not true. It is enforceable, if it is within the contract.

You’ve now pivoted to saying “they can’t put it in the purchase agreement”, which is NOT true.

You are correct in the sense that new ownership *could* make a case and not sign the agreement. At which point, I believe, they would walk away from the offer entirely. The Blazers were the equivalent to Paul Allen’s child, per conversations with the man himself.

The lack of guarantee to leave the Blazers in Portland is, in my opinion, a non-starter due to this. The offer wouldn’t even be looked at. Much like offering Meyers Leonard for LeBron, they would go “uhh, you can’t even meet the first basic stipulation of the sale terms,,, leave the Blazers in PDX” and they would hang up.

Look at some of Paul Allen’s investments in tech companies if you don’t believe the power of contracts (and having massive legal teams) and leverage.

You can put a billion stupid, silly, petty things within a contract. If it’s agreed to, no matter how much it may stifle competition, it’s enforceable.

 

Of course it does, but Allen was the "first" of the big money owners. Now every owner in the NBA is a "big money owner." They aren't going to let Mark Davis put a bid in for the Blazers. It will be somebody who is deep in the Forbes wealth index. If we lose Portland to Las Vegas, it will be a staggered connect-the-dots sort of thing. A plus B equals C type of thing. I'm more concerned at the NBA doing studies of how an NBA team would perform in LV now that they have hockey and soon the NFL there. That does scare me. But it's a few years away.

 

There is zero chance Jody keeps the Blazers. She does not like them, to say the least.

 

Sacramento Kings

 

I dont believe anyone would invest billions of dollars into a sports franchise that said you cant move this team. They might have a stipulation there that says we wont move the team for 5 years, or we wont move the team ‘if’ these things happen or ‘if’ these things dont happen.
Most owners are going to want more control over the franchise they bought than that.

 

I don't know. I mean, the Kings thing was before Vegas landed an NHL team and an NFL team. I'm just saying. It would be foolish to think it couldn't happen. That's all.

 

Good. Then that should limit the suitors to local investors whose goal is to keep the team in Portland. I am sure they can come up with one fucking group that is interested in that.

 

Why on earth would the Blazers move to Vegas? A team that has, like, an actual strong and loyal following?

Wouldn't it be a team like the Nets, Hawks, Pelicans etc.? Teams that are lowest every year in attendance?

It would make zero sense for the NBA to move the Blazers.

 

Man these dudes are hella paranoid lol

I’m trynna tell them the Sonics god bless them sacrificed themselves for situations like this. The nba has learned their lesson and don’t want to do that again. Till this day they get backlash from that move.

The nba even backed that up by doing everything they could to keep the Kings in freaking Sacramento. And on top of that the city these guys fear, Seattle, was the city they BLOCKED getting the Kings.

Portland has waaaay more of a known fan base than the Kings.

Don’t worry guys the Blazers aren’t going anywhere