<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ May 10 2007, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Obviously AI is not 2nd or 3rd team. You want him over Gilbert Arenas, Steve Nash, and Chauncey Billups?Stop with the Homer comments.Chris Bosh 2nd team, Yeah baby! He desreved it though, cant argue with that.I also never get why Amare gets this much recognition. Its not like he lead his team this year, I would consider Yao and Amare switching possibly.</div>Dude he is deff over Billups, and he played more games then Wade and has same #'s pretty much, and has same #'s as T-mac and same #'s as Arenas. Only sure thing is Nash even though AI still get's 10 point average more then Nash but w/e he got him by 5 assists.AI no question should be over Billups NO QUESTION that is not homer. That like having Lebron/Kobe not make it when you have AI not make it this is BS end of story 3rd team for sure, and maybe 2nd.I am not saying 1st, but 3rd for sure.Wade again only played what 50 games that's even less then Iverson.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ May 10 2007, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude he is deff over Billups, and he played more games then Wade and has same #'s pretty much, and has same #'s as T-mac and same #'s as Arenas. Only sure thing is Nash even though AI still get's 10 point average more then Nash but w/e he got him by 5 assists.AI no question should be over Billups NO QUESTION that is not homer. That like having Lebron/Kobe not make it when you have AI not make it this is BS end of story 3rd team for sure, and maybe 2nd.I am not saying 1st, but 3rd for sure.Wade again only played what 50 games that's even less then Iverson.</div>Billups team is on one of the best teams in the NBA. He runs the best team's offense, who should be third team again?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ May 10 2007, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Billups team is on one of the best teams in the NBA. He runs the best team's offense, who should be third team again?</div>Dude Baron Davis should be over Billups not just AI.Look at the freakin stats Billups only got AI in assists by what 2.Amare awsome player I like him, but he should be 2nd team.Melo should be 2nd teamLebron maybe firstT-Mac should be 3rd not 2ndAI should be 3rd instead of Billups.Or Wade he missed more games then AI stats were pretty much =But Wade just hard to keep him of cause he was great when he played. So Billups for sure I would keep of.
[quote name='Serge' post='353636' date='May 10 2007, 10:14 PM']Dude Baron Davis should be over Billups not just AI.Look at the freakin stats Billups only got AI in assists by what 2.[/quote]Stats don't show everything. Billups led team to best record in East. His stupid fight and dropoff of playa fter returning hurt those chances. T-Mac was a top 5 candidate for MVP, had a career high in assists, and had 28PPG without Yao en route to a 21-10 record without the big man. Wade had more points, more assists, more rebounds, more steals, more blocks, better FG %. No way does AI deserve it over Wade.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ May 10 2007, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stats don't show everything. Billups led team to best record in East.His stupid fight and dropoff of playa fter returning hurt those chances.T-Mac was a top 5 candidate for MVP, had a career high in assists, and had 28PPG without Yao en route to a 21-10 record without the big man.Wade had more points, more assists, more rebounds, more steals, more blocks, better FG %. No way does AI deserve it over Wade.</div>Dude except rebounding/block cause of size I am sure everything else was maybe + 1 or w/e was not a big deal.And Wade missed like more games then Iverson.Anyway I think Wade should have made all league team anyway, but AI should have been on instead of Billups that is easy for me not sure why Billups got it. Well record probably, but still.
Everybody ignore Serge, he has proven himself to be an idiot.EDIT: AI should not have been on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd All-NBA team this season. End of story.
I agree with these for the most part. I definitely agree with Pesty about Duncan, he should be the 1st team's center and LeBron should be on the 1st team (with Amare moving down as a forward on the 2nd team). Other than that one change, I agree with it all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ May 10 2007, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Everybody ignore Serge, he has proven himself to be an idiot.EDIT: AI should not have been on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd All-NBA team this season. End of story.</div>I am a idiot? I never said 1st team, but 2nd maybe deff 3rd. Wade missed 50 f****** games are you a idiot? And the #'s were pretty much same. 1 diff maybe in assists, points, and steal about same shooting % also not a big diff after Denver AI shot very good.Now Wade I still think he should be on the all league team, but Billups should not have made it. And even T-Mac I can argue even though I agree with T-Mac making it.My main problem is Billups your a idiot if you think he should have made it above Iverson. That like taking Lebron or Kobe of it is a complete joke dude 26/7 more then 1 steal, and a few boards is 3rd team NBA EASY. You can not like my posting, but those #'s AI put up are 2nd team #'s even for him not to make 3rd team though was a joke. I never said 1st, or even 2nd there was guys who be hard to put AI over, but 3rd team this was a snub just like Melo getting snubed from all star teams before, and all most this season. Just like Melo being snubed from 2nd team all NBA now. Just like Iverson being snubed from team USA. They really need to get better voters. 70% of the players if asked were they don't have to say it with other guys hereing who said what would say AI should deff have been on the 3rd team. Maybe not to the media cause that would offend guys who made 3rd team or what not, but 7-% of the players if asked if AI should have made 3rd team all NBA would say yes.You can not like my posting, but I speak the truth and this is deff the truth. I am not being a homer I call out AI when he has bad games. I have called him out when he had nights of many turnovers I don't just priase the guy. I called him out this playoffs he was really not good except game 1 even though the reffs could have called fouls more he really did not play good except game 1. But for him not to get all league 3rd team is a flat out joke.
<span style="font-family:Arial">1. Baron Davis didn't have a better SEASON than Dwyane Wade.2. Amare Stoudemire didn't deserve to be on the first team.</span>
I think everything on there is almost perfect. Just that I would rather put TD or maybe even Yao in place of STAT. I'm in a toss-up between Chauncey and AI for the PG but give the edge to Billups because he was a bigger contributor in a different way for the Pistons (being the leader). Next season I would expect AI to be on one of the teams.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ May 11 2007, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Arial">1. Baron Davis didn't have a better SEASON than Dwyane Wade.2. Amare Stoudemire didn't deserve to be on the first team.</span></div>LOL no body said Baron over Wade. Baron over Billups I said.And Amare has a great season I agree though not first team I would have gave him 2nd team probably.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (12HRockets @ May 11 2007, 04:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think everything on there is almost perfect. Just that I would rather put TD or maybe even Yao in place of STAT. I'm in a toss-up between Chauncey and AI for the PG but give the edge to Billups because he was a bigger contributor in a different way for the Pistons (being the leader). Next season I would expect AI to be on one of the teams.</div>I don't agree AI had better #'s out side of assists he had Billups by 10 points even though AI average went down like 5 since he came to Denver cause he shared with Melo. If AI would have stayed in Philly he would have won the scoring title again, or atleast average over 30 a game a little more not 26. He trys to be not selfish, and he get's snubed now that is bs.Since when is 17 Point/7.2 Assists/3.1 Rebounds And 1.2 steals better then:26.3 Points/7.2 Assists/3 Rebounds And 1.8 stealsSteals are pretty even AI got a small edge if you really wanna get into it. Rebound Billups is 3 inch taller even 4 cause AI is not really 6 feet and only .1 diff. Billups true PG, and asssits are same as Iverson again I say Iverson a very underrated passer, and should get more props for that. And points all most 10 a game diff.Give me a freakin break that is a clear choice.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ May 11 2007, 05:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LOL no body said Baron over Wade. Baron over Billups I said.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Baron > Billups and Wade this year, and he didn't make any teams.</div>
AI dosen't deserve to be on the All NBA 3rd Team. Billups does, it comes down to simple things such as he's done more for his team, his team wins and that he had a better season than Allen Iverson or any other point guard who didn't make the all nba teams.
Serge you keep saying that AI had better numbers than Billups. But you keep denying the fact that Billups was more valuable to his team than AI was and that he lead his team to the best record in the east. Numbers arent everything.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Amare320 @ May 11 2007, 07:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>AI dosen't deserve to be on the All NBA 3rd Team. Billups does, it comes down to simple things such as he's done more for his team, his team wins and that he had a better season than Allen Iverson or any other point guard who didn't make the all nba teams.</div>Since when is 17 Point/7.2 Assists/3.1 Rebounds And 1.2 steals better then:26.3 Points/7.2 Assists/3 Rebounds And 1.8 stealsSteals are pretty even AI got a small edge if you really wanna get into it. Rebound Billups is 3 inch taller even 4 cause AI is not really 6 feet and only .1 diff. Billups true PG, and asssits are same as Iverson again I say Iverson a very underrated passer, and should get more props for that. And points all most 10 a game diff.Give me a freakin break that is a clear choice.As I said beforeBigMo if it is close it's one thing AI had the clear better year and he was a 2nd option he really passed to Melo, and took like 7 less shots as a nugget, and shot better since being a nugget 45% that is very good.And also Wade should have made the all nba team, but he missed more games then Iverson and #'s were pretty even. Yet AI was 2nd option unlike Wade.But Yeah my main problem is Billups.
17 Point/7.2 Assists/3.1 Rebounds And 1.2 steals is better than 26.3 Points/7.2 Assists/3 Rebounds And 1.8 steals when the person with 17 Point/7.2 Assists/3.1 Rebounds And 1.2 steals finishes on the best team in the East and is the most valuable player on their team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MoNeY_MiKe__ @ May 11 2007, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>17 Point/7.2 Assists/3.1 Rebounds And 1.2 steals is better than 26.3 Points/7.2 Assists/3 Rebounds And 1.8 steals when the person with 17 Point/7.2 Assists/3.1 Rebounds And 1.2 steals finishes on the best team in the East and is the most valuable player on their team.</div>Bingo. Not to mention the intangibles that Billups brings to that team.Serge, since when is a record of 31-28 (since Iverson was traded to Denver, with a winning percentage of .525) better than a record of 53-29 (.646 winning percentage)?Individual stats aren't everything when it comes to NBA awards... winning plays an equal part in determining the recipients. I mean, after all, winning is what matters most.
