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  1. barfo

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    And what has Knute accomplished in public service? Even if your 'very little' for Kate were true, very little is still way more than zero.

    You don't think Knute (or anyone running for office) arrogantly thinks his/her "vision" is best for all? That's kind of the job description.

    I'm unaware of significant corruption in any of those three, other than personal (rather than governmental) corruption. It is probably unlikely that she's sleeping with teenagers, and if she got her spouse government contracts, it hasn't been discovered. Maybe you'll remind me of some scandals I've forgotten, though.

    So elect a random wealthy businessman who doesn't want to release his tax returns? Where have we heard this before?

    Change isn't always for the better.

    Do you think your interests are at all the same as Phil Knight's? Do you think Phil gives a shit about schools and infrastructure? I don't. I think he cares about tax breaks for himself and Nike, and Knute has been bought and paid for by Phil, not you.

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    agree. Its sad that people are basically run out of their countries because of economics and tyranny.
    Im sure they would stay and fight for their countries if they knew others had their back.
    There are sins of commission and omission.
     
  4. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

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    Wow. So you answered my question with as little practical info as possible.......

    Brown has been a politician in Oregon since 1991. So what is/are her signature accomplishment(s)?? I’ll wait for your answer. Buehler might be a “wealthy businessman” but he too has “served” the public. And everyone has to start somewhere. I just got tired of waiting for Kate to start and got even more tired of waiting to see something results. I guess I’m more in tune with Knute’s vision than I am with Kate’s......

    As far as corruption (forget your.....not mine......use of “significant”) her handling of the Comcast issue was questionable at the very least.

    The last I looked there is absolutely NO law whatsoever that requires a politician to release his/her tax returns. It can be said that an honest man would have no problem releasing his/her returns. But my dad was as honest of a business man as they come and he NEVER put his business out for strangers to see if for no other reason than it was HIS business and no one else’s. And I personally have no problem with that. We pay the IRS to be a watchdog and if they can’t do that, then that is another story.

    Funny, Phil Knight has also donated heavily to Kate Brown’s reelection campaign. Imagine that. A business man hedging his bets on both sides. So........do you really think that Kate Brown won’t be “bought and paid for by Phil”? Phil’s going to get exactly what he paid for regardless of who wins. But nice try.

    You’re right, change isn’t necessarily always good. But sometimes you need change simply for a change. And the last 30 years of Democratic governorship has made it clear (at least to me personally) that now is the time for change......if only for a fresh approach. You can make Buehler into some kind of Trump bogeyman all you want but I honestly believe that (even if Knute was stupid enough to try that shit) Oregonians are smart and tough enough to shut him right down. And let’s don’t forget, he’ll have to deal with a legislature dominated by Democrats. Sorry, but I can’t paint all Republicans with the Trump brush, just as no one can’t honestly paint all Democrats with the Hillary brush. I vote for the candidate, not the herd mentality. And from what I have read and seen, Buehler is the better candidate for this state at this time.
     
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    Ummm........you might want to hold that thought until after the election. She might be the current front runner but we saw how that worked in 2016.......
     
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    Well said and I appreciate those that don't paint either party with the Clinton or Trump brush. And I'm all for voting for a candidate regardless of party if you either want change or someone that can improve status quo. We need more citizens that think that way, imo.
     
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    How? What are his signature accomplishments? I'll wait for your answer.

    And that somewhere is at the top? Did you start your career at the top? Would your employer have been better off if you had?

    Fair enough.

    Agreed.

    Was he asking for people to vote for him?

    As far as I know, that is completely incorrect. Phil has given Buehler $2,500,000. Nike has given Kate $85,000. Do the math.

    And that kind of thinking is literally why Trump is president today. Qualifications matter.

    And yet you compared Kate to Hillary, before I compared Knute to Trump. I don't think Knute literally is Trump - he's obviously brighter (who isn't?) and less of a crook (again, who isn't?). But he approves of a number of Trump-isms that I strongly disagree with.

    Good for you on the former, and I disagree on the latter. Since our votes cancel each other, the rest of Oregon gets to decide.

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    Good for you, however, I've already voted for Kate.
     
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    Harry Reid's 1993 claim that 'no sane country' would provide birthright citizenship fuels GOP immigration push

    By Gregg Re | Fox News
    Top Republicans are pointing to an impassioned 1993 speech by then-Nevada Sen. Harry Reid, in which the future Democratic Senate majority leader argued that "no sane country" would award citizenship to children of illegal immigrants born on its soil and promoted his own legislation to end the practice here.

    President Trump ignited a national debate on the topic this week when, speaking to "Axios on HBO," he announced his intention to use an executive order to end birthright citizenship, which he called "ridiculous."

    In his speech, Reid concurred, although he advocated passing a law to enact the change -- one that would grant citizenship only to the children of mothers in the U.S. legally.

    "If making it easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough, how about offering a reward for being an illegal immigrant? No sane country would do that, right?" Reid said. "Guess again. If you break our laws by entering this country without permission and give birth to a child, we reward that child with U.S. citizenship and guarantee a full access to all public and social services this society provides. And that's a lot of services."

    He continued: "Is it any wonder that two-thirds of the babies born at taxpayer expense at country-run hospitals in Los Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers?"

    "No sane country would do that, right?"

    — Fmr. Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., on birthright citizenship
    Reid reversed his position in 1999 and apologized for his stance, shortly after the union group AFL-CIO, which holds significant political sway nationally and in Nevada, changed its position to support birthright citizenship. The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported that Reid has since called his speech "way up high" on his "list of mistakes," and in 2006 he referred to it as a "low point" of his legislative career.

    Within hours of the clip surfacing, Republican leaders were quick to highlight Democrats' changing tune on immigration.

    "Stopping the flow of illegal immigration used to be a bipartisan issue," GOP Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel wrote on Twitter. "But the Democrat leaders of today want to abolish ICE and open our borders."

    Former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin reposted an article about Reid's speech.

    In terms of giving unwitting political fodder for Republicans on immigration, Reid has some high-profile company. Earlier this month, President Trump gleefully quoted then-Sen. Barack Obama's comments in 2005, when he declared that "we simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants into this country.” (Obama, in those comments, went on to advocate for providing some legal status for illegal immigrants.)

    But not all Republicans are speaking with one voice after Trump's proposal. House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wisc., said Tuesday that Trump has no authority to use an executive order to unilaterally resolve the issue, which many legal experts say is controlled not only by the 14th Amendment, but also by the Immigration and Naturalization Act (INA) of 1952.

    It might be possible, some conservatives argue, for a new law passed by Congress to revise the INA and still comport with the Constitution, which states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

    Republicans are advancing the theory that illegal immigrants are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the U.S. within the meaning of that provision, which would give Congress the legal daylight to pass a law codifying Trump's view.

    "On substance, I believe President Trump is right on birthright citizenship — the 14th Amendment does not require it," wrote former U.S. Attorney Andrew McCarthy. "I do not believe, however, that the president may change the interpretation of the 14th Amendment, which has been in effect for decades, by executive order, as he is reportedly contemplating."

    While the new 5-4 conservative majority on the Supreme Court might seem sympathetic to the president's interpretation, the change would mark an apparent, abrupt departure from tradition -- and tradition is what then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh cited as a guiding principle when interpreting the Constitution.

    Gregg Re is an editor for Fox News. Follow him on Twitter @gregg_re
     
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    Pretty sure you stuck that stick in your own eye, if you live in Oregon.
     
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    Ah, more Fox News. I can't tell you how much that warms my heart.
     
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    Oregon's Sanctuary Law just murdered another illegal alien.

    Kate Brown, and every single Dem pol or voter who supports this heinously anti-American sedition has this woman's blood on their hands.

    Lib voters think this is all a game, but the reality is their party kills and maims innocent people all day long with their 1%er-pocket-lining laws.

    From making healthcare and home ownership impossibly unaffordable for the masses, to continually unleashing the most heinous criminals over and over and over...

    This is why Karma exists. :cheers:

    ICE put hold months ago on undocumented immigrant now accused of killing wife

    Updated 5:11 PM; Posted Nov 1, 8:16 AM

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    Martin Gallo-Gallardo, 45, was arrested Tuesday, accused of stabbing his wife, Coral Rodriguez Lorenzo, multiple times and leaving her body in a ditch near a camp in Sandy. (Go Fund Me/Clackamas County Sher)

    by Maxine Bernstein The Oregonian/OregonLive

    Federal officers say they placed an immigration hold in March on a man facing domestic violence allegations but the Multnomah County jail wouldn't recognize their civil detainer.

    The man is now accused of killing his wife and dumping her body in a ditch near a summer camp outside Sandy in Clackamas County.

    The case is the latest to shine the spotlight on Oregon's controversial sanctuary law just as voters in next week's election will decide whether to repeal the law.

    The matter goes to the heart of the debate over the 31-year-old law, a major thorn in the side of the Trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigration. Attorney General Jeff Sessions has singled out Oregon and other states with similar laws as a haven for criminals who don't belong in the United States.

    It also exposes the fraying relationship between the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The latest case has both agencies accusing the other of not protecting the Portland community.

    ICE officials said they put a hold on Martin Gallo-Gallardo on March 6 after he was arrested and accused of felony fourth-degree assault in the alleged abuse of his wife. The agency provided The Oregonian/OregonLive with a copy of the receipt from the fax they sent to the Sheriff's Office.

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    Receipt showing the fax of an ICE civil detainer sent to the Multnomah County Detention Center on March 6, 2018.

    Gallo-Gallardo, a Mexican citizen, illegally entered the U.S., according to ICE. Border Patrol officers had previously apprehended him multiple times, federal officials said.

    ICE wanted the county jail to alert immigration officers before Gallo-Gallardo's release so they could pick him up and hold him for deportation proceedings.

    County sheriff's officials lied and said they didn't get the ICE request but wouldn't have followed it anyway.


    This week, Gallo-Gallardo was charged with murder, accused of fatally stabbing his wife, Coral Rodriguez Lorenzo, 38.

    An ICE spokeswoman suggested if Multnomah County had alerted the federal agency so its officers could pick up and hold Gallo-Gallardo before he was released from jail, he probably wouldn't have returned to his family.

    "ICE maintains that cooperation by local law enforcement is an indispensable component of promoting public safety,'' said Tanya J. Roman, a spokeswoman for the ICE regional office that covers Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Alaska.

    "It's unfortunate that law enforcement agencies like the Multnomah County jail refuse to work with ICE to promote public safety by holding criminals accountable and providing justice and closure for their victims," she said.

    Federal authorities continue to complain, arguing the sheriff's stance misinterprets state and federal law.

    Federal officials say it shouldn't affect defendants who are already arrested on a criminal charge. They argue that neither the 2014 federal judge's ruling or the state sanctuary law prevents local police and jails from sharing information with federal agents about people in the country illegally who face criminal charges. Other Oregon counties and the state Department of Corrections routinely provide that information.

    Portland sex attack suspect's 12 deportations inflame immigration debate

    Jail under fire for not telling ICE about suspect's many arrests, releases this year. Federal prosecutor and immigration officials say Multnomah County's sheriff has misconstrued state and federal law.

    "Sanctuary policies not only provide a refuge for illegal aliens, but they also shield criminal aliens who prey on people in their own and other communities,'' Roman said.

    "In addition to false claims that ICE never filed a detainer, the county's statement on this matter ignores the fact that there is no mechanism for a judge to issue a criminal warrant for an administrative immigration arrest,'' she added. "Oregon's sanctuary policies fail to recognize federally established processes for the enforcement of immigration law, and they do so at the expense of the safety of their citizens.''

    Oregon voters are now deciding whether to repeal the law.
    Gallo-Gallardo was arrested early on March 4 after a daughter called 911 at 4:24 a.m. and reported her father was yelling and hitting her mother, court records show. The girl said Gallo-Gallardo had come home drunk from a party.

    Police arrived and interviewed other children in the home, including a 15-year-old boy, who said he awoke to his father's shouts and heard sounds of a physical fight. He told police his father had assaulted his mother in the past.


    Gallo-Gallardo was booked into the Multnomah County Detention Center in downtown Portland on two counts of felony fourth-degree assault.

    ICE officials said they placed a hold on him two days later, faxing a civil detainer notice to the jail and sheriff's office on March 6 at 12:13 p.m. The Sheriff's Office, as required, shared Gallo-Gallardo's fingerprints with the FBI, which in turn provided the prints to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Homeland Security ran them through its immigration databases.

    Gallo-Gallardo posted 10 percent of his $20,000 bail and was released on March 8.

    On Monday, an employee at Camp Namanu, east of Sandy, reported finding a body in a ditch but authorities didn't know who it was.

    Detectives went to question Gallo-Gallardo later Tuesday at his job. He agreed to go with them to the Sheriff's Office in Clackamas County. There, he confessed to the killing, the affidavit said.

    An autopsy found Rodriguez Lorenzo died from blunt-force head trauma and multiple stab wounds, the affidavit said.

    After Gallo-Gallardo's murder arrest, ICE placed a hold on him with the Clackamas County jail.

    -- Maxine Bernstein

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    503-221-8212
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    Quit trying to deflect from white men being terrorists. So what if Multnomah County has blood on their hands?

    Was that good? This is so patently ridiculous it is actually harder to be sarcastic about it.
     
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    https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/...s-public-health-threat-tb-dengue-chikungunya/

    Central American Caravan Poses Serious Public Health Threat; TB, Dengue, Chikungunya
    NOVEMBER 01, 2018

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    The caravan of Central Americans marching towards the United States poses a serious public health threat and could bring dangerous diseases into the country, a prominent physician in a key border state warns. “It’s insane to bring in migrants from any country without proper health screening,” said Dr. Jane Orient, executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. At her Tucson, Arizona practice, Dr. Orient, a graduate of the prestigious Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, specializes in internal medicine. In an interview with Judicial Watch she said that extremely drug resistant strands of tuberculosis are among the infectious diseases the Central American migrants are likely to bring in. Others include mosquito-borne diseases such as dengue and chikungunya that are widespread in the region.

    Just this week a mainstream newspaper reported on the health crisis created by the influx of Venezuelans fleeing to neighboring countries. The migrants are spreading malaria, yellow fever, diphtheria, dengue, tuberculosis and AIDS throughout South America. Many of the diseases had been considered eradicated in the neighboring Latin American countries, according to government officials cited in the article, which states that “contagion from Venezuela’s economic meltdown is starting to spread to neighboring countries—not financially, but literally, in the form of potentially deadly diseases carried among millions of refugees.” As an example, the story reveals that “measles reappeared with a vengeance” in a Brazilian city near the Venezuelan border that had declared the highly contagious airborne disease “vanquished” nearly two decades ago. “Measles is already spreading beyond the Brazilian Amazon to other Brazilian states, as well as Colombia, Peru and as far south as Argentina, according to recent Pan American Health Organization reports,” the article states. “Other diseases racing through communities in Venezuela are now crossing borders and raising concerns among health authorities as far away as the U.S.”

    The U.S. could face a similar situation if the caravan of Central Americans—at last count around 7,000—is allowed into the country. “Of course it could happen here,” Dr. Orient said, referring to the health crisis ignited by Venezuelans in South America. She points out that even legal immigrants are not screened as they should be. “The government is putting kids with lice and scabies and other health issues in American schools without people knowing the health risks,” Dr. Orient said. When immigrants arrived at Ellis Island they were properly tested for diseases and quarantined, Dr. Orient points out. Now they’re allowed to stay in the U.S. without proper health screenings and many get relocated throughout the country, further risking the spread of diseases.

    Years ago, when Barack Obama let tens of thousands of illegal immigrant minors into the country, health experts warned about the serious health risks. Most of the Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) came from Central America, like the current caravan, and they crossed into the U.S. through Mexico, in the same way that the caravan expects to. Swine flu, dengue fever and Ebola were among the diseases that the hordes of UACs brought with them, according to lawmakers and medical experts interviewed by Judicial Watch during the influx. At the time, a U.S. Congressman, who is also a medical doctor, told Judicial Watch about the danger to the American public as well as the Border Patrol agents forced to care for the UACs. The former lawmaker, Phil Gingrey, referred to it as a “severe and dangerous” crisis because the Central American youths were importing infectious diseases considered to be largely eradicated in this country. Many migrants lack basic vaccinations such as those to prevent chicken pox or measles, leaving America’s young children and the elderly particularly susceptible, Gingrey pointed out then. To handle the escalating health crisis the CDC activated an Emergency Operations Center (EOC) that largely operated in secrecy.
     
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    Probably we should keep any Real American tourists who go to Central America countries, for example Costa Rica, from returning to this country. God knows what diseases they could be carrying.

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