<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ May 13 2007, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can see Ray Allen changing teams, with the Sonics trying to rebuild. He would have made a great fit in Denver before AI, but he could fit in well in Houston or possibly Dallas. Imagine Allen in Dallas.</div> Why would Seattle trade Ray Allen? They are going to loose Rashard Lewis and they need someone to score next year. Neither the Mavericks or Rockets could afford to aquire Ray Allen who has around $50 million left on his contract.
Elton Brand might leave LA this year or next years off season if they don't shape up. I'd love to see him return to Chicago. I know its impossible but imagine having Elton Brand and Ben Wallace as your front court.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dagameplayer @ May 14 2007, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Elton Brand might leave LA this year or next years off season if they don't shape up.</div> That's a pipe dream.
Rashard would stay if KG goest to the sonics(.) But right now it sound like I'm smoking now(.)-Wilcox -KG-Rashard-Ray-Watson/Ridnour
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (S_Guard @ May 14 2007, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rashard would stay if KG goest to the sonics(.) But right now it sound like I'm smoking now(.)-Wilcox -KG-Rashard-Ray-Watson/Ridnour</div> Yeah, okay, except that the Sonics have nothing the Timberwolves are interested in, that trade would never happen, so that fantasy is over.
And Seattle would never except Joey Graham and Mo Pete for Rashard.I think Seattle will trade Allen though if they can get some young players and a pick or so...its time they start rebuilding, and letting your aging best player go to waste isnt a good way to start...even if Lewis is leaving.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ May 14 2007, 01:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Make KG in a Nuggets jersey for me please. lolSend Nene/JR/First packingIverson?MeloKGCambyTitle for a few years in a row. Can you say 3 peat? :worthy: :dribble:</div>That wouldn't happen.
Yall aint gonna agree with me here and im gonna jump ahead a little bit. I see paul pierce ending up a spur. Ive been saying it for a while now, he is gonna get fed up with losing in boston, and they are gonna get durant in this draft and he is gonna be the new guy in town there. They trade pierce over for bowen, and a 2nd, and maybe a pick to be named later. I see it all the way, celts get a little defense added to them, they get back into winning form, and spurs...........CHAMPIONSHIP, no doubt. I also see Vince Carter going to Orlando or possibly some how being delt to New York although he wants to play in florida, I think the knicks and Isaih thomas have what it takes to pull of that trade, or they have something up there sleeve. Next year, New Jersey is done
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (melofan15 @ May 15 2007, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yall aint gonna agree with me here and im gonna jump ahead a little bit. I see paul pierce ending up a spur. Ive been saying it for a while now, he is gonna get fed up with losing in boston, and they are gonna get durant in this draft and he is gonna be the new guy in town there. They trade pierce over for bowen, and a 2nd, and maybe a pick to be named later. I see it all the way, celts get a little defense added to them, they get back into winning form, and spurs...........CHAMPIONSHIP, no doubt. I also see Vince Carter going to Orlando or possibly some how being delt to New York although he wants to play in florida, I think the knicks and Isaih thomas have what it takes to pull of that trade, or they have something up there sleeve. Next year, New Jersey is done</div>The Paul Pierce for Bruce Bowen trade cannot happen... literally. Paul Pierce makes more money than Bowen, and under the CBA the Spurs would have to include more than Bowen to get Pierce, and I don't see it happening.But I agree with Carter. I heard Orlando doesn't want him, but I wouldn't be so sure. After that Detroit series, you could see they need that superstar who will be able to take the game over (Dwight obviously isn't on that level yet). If he doesn't end up in Orlando, I can see him going to Charlotte too, but that's a less likely scenario.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ May 15 2007, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Paul Pierce for Bruce Bowen trade cannot happen... literally. Paul Pierce makes more money than Bowen, and under the CBA the Spurs would have to include more than Bowen to get Pierce, and I don't see it happening.But I agree with Carter. I heard Orlando doesn't want him, but I wouldn't be so sure. After that Detroit series, you could see they need that superstar who will be able to take the game over (Dwight obviously isn't on that level yet). If he doesn't end up in Orlando, I can see him going to Charlotte too, but that's a less likely scenario.</div>I would rather Orlando go with Rashard Lewis if he leaves, rather than go with Vince Carter. Vince Carter is not the three point shooter that Rashard Lewis is, he needs the ball in his hands more to be effective. Rashard Lewis can play the catch and shoot game better, as well as take over a game at any point just the same with his scoring. He will be able to open up alot more room for Dwight Howard than Vince Carter will be able to in my opinion. I also believe he will be alot less expensive than Vince Carter will be, so that will allow us to sign maybe another person that can help us.Furthermore, Vince Carter is proving in this playoffs right now, that he is not a big time playoff performer. He misses free throws down the stretch, doesn't take over games like a star is supposed to. I am not a huge fan of Carter's, and would much rather have Lewis over Vince Carter.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (melofan15 @ May 15 2007, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yall aint gonna agree with me here and im gonna jump ahead a little bit. I see paul pierce ending up a spur. Ive been saying it for a while now, he is gonna get fed up with losing in boston, and they are gonna get durant in this draft and he is gonna be the new guy in town there. They trade pierce over for bowen, and a 2nd, and maybe a pick to be named later. I see it all the way, celts get a little defense added to them, they get back into winning form, and spurs...........CHAMPIONSHIP, no doubt. I also see Vince Carter going to Orlando or possibly some how being delt to New York although he wants to play in florida, I think the knicks and Isaih thomas have what it takes to pull of that trade, or they have something up there sleeve. Next year, New Jersey is done</div>First off, you can't say that we are going to get Kevin Durant because anything can happen in the lottery, we could get a top 2 pick, but the chances are greater that we get 3-5. Also, Paul Pierce isn't going anywhere unless we slip in the lottery AND Ainge does nothing... not going to happen. It just won't. Even if we did trade Pierce, which would only happen if he demanded a trade (unlikely unless Ainge does nothing this offseason), it would certainly be for a hell of a lot more than the package you threw out there (which is impossible financially anyway, like BigMo mentioned).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 15 2007, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First off, you can't say that we are going to get Kevin Durant because anything can happen in the lottery, we could get a top 2 pick, but the chances are greater that we get 3-5. Also, Paul Pierce isn't going anywhere unless we slip in the lottery AND Ainge does nothing... not going to happen. It just won't. Even if we did trade Pierce, which would only happen if he demanded a trade (unlikely unless Ainge does nothing this offseason), it would certainly be for a hell of a lot more than the package you threw out there (which is impossible financially anyway, like BigMo mentioned).</div>Im not saying that is the package they throw out there, im pretty sure they have a lot more to give up than that, I just dont know what they would give up, no one does, and I use to say that I never see paul pierce wanting out but if the celtics keep going in the direction that they are, I believe he will want out because there are teams out there that are contenders that would want him. And I dont believe the celtics are gonna get much better within the next coupld of years, I may be wrong but who knows?
As far as who isnt going to change jerseys this off-season, Im fully confident Chauncey is loyal to this team so he will stay.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 13 2007, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sebastian Telfair is certainly leaving Boston, and we will make a couple deals (Telfair will more than likely be included in one, I don't see us just waiving him). Rashard Lewis is gone, I think he's the biggest name that is closest to a sure thing when talking about leaving. Another guys that haven't been mentioned are Corey Maggette, Mo Williams, Chucky Atkins, Marcus Banks, Matt Barnes, Mike James, Steve Francis, and Brendan Haywood.EDIT: I think this is going to be an unbelievably active offseason. When talking about the possible stars being moved, this draft class, and all the coaching changes... this offseason could be the motherload of the 2000 era.</div>2003 was pretty damn big. It was a top 3 draft class of all time. And there was a huge amount of big signings and big trades among the elite teams. 2004 was crazy too with the Shaq/McGrady trades and what not.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ May 16 2007, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>2003 was pretty damn big. It was a top 3 draft class of all time. And there was a huge amount of big signings and big trades among the elite teams. 2004 was crazy too with the Shaq/McGrady trades and what not.</div>Yeah no doubt, but this draft class could potentially be right there with 03's, then you have guys like Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O'Neal, Pau Gasol, Vince Carter, etc. who could possibly be moving/dealt. So, yeah, I think this could potentially be better than, or just as good as 03 without question.
I think as far as the most trades on draft night, the 2006 draft was crazy. Rudy Gay, Rodney Carney, Thabo, Foye, Roy, Aldrudge, Thomas and probably some more were all drafted by different teams than they are playing for now.But I also wanna add that I have a feeling Sean May will be traded and Charlotte will most likely pickup another big man in the draft.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ May 14 2007, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That wouldn't happen.</div>Yeah they can get more then Nene/JR/First probably from Bulls for sure.But if Nene comes into what he should it would not be that awful of a trade never get full value for stars anyway usually.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (melofan15 @ May 15 2007, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yall aint gonna agree with me here and im gonna jump ahead a little bit. I see paul pierce ending up a spur. Ive been saying it for a while now, he is gonna get fed up with losing in boston, and they are gonna get durant in this draft and he is gonna be the new guy in town there. They trade pierce over for bowen, and a 2nd, and maybe a pick to be named later. I see it all the way, celts get a little defense added to them, they get back into winning form, and spurs...........CHAMPIONSHIP, no doubt. I also see Vince Carter going to Orlando or possibly some how being delt to New York although he wants to play in florida, I think the knicks and Isaih thomas have what it takes to pull of that trade, or they have something up there sleeve. Next year, New Jersey is done</div>ROFL Pierce for Bowen, 2nd, and pick to be named latter are you that stupid? Dude think before you make posts.Bowen would not help Boston at all btw.
I think the Nets should definately keep RJ...It's Vince that they should get rid of. He showed his true colours this playoffs. He might have been the most inconsistent player in the entire playoffs. When night he kills it, the next he goes 6-24 or whatever...The dude just has no heart, and he is declining.I think Rashard, Mo Peterson, and Mo Williams will DEFINATELY change teams.
