The Official CJ McCollum Thread

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  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    So.... What are his career numbers? Exactly....

    MFs should know it's well known CJ had a down year last season.

    It's irritating how y'all wanna cherry pick.
     
  2. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    CJ is a good scorer BECAUSE of his ballhandling ability....
     
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    and if he is not scoring, it is not a tool that gives us much.. which is the original point that was made (and I was not even the one that made it).

    Honestly, if someone is a great scorer - it does not matter if it is because of athletic ability, long-distance accuracy, footwork or ball-handling.

    But, ball-handling by itself is only useful for the outcome of games in 2 ways - scoring and setting others - so, the original point made that CJ has one great attribute (scoring) and has not made advances in others (rebounding, setting people or defense) is valid.
     
  4. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Less. Maybe he's trying to play within the flow more? If so, it appears to be messing up his timing. If it's something else, I hope he gets it straightened out soon.

    :cheers:
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    You guys wore the poor guy down haha ;)

    Clearly he's a reasonable chap who is willing and able to base his opinion on current circumstances rather than sticking doggedly to his earlier evaluation. It's a rare and admirable trait.

    :cheers:
     
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    Damians ts% was higher than the team average. Cjs was lower. Ts% is not cherry picking efficiency. It IS efficiency
     
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    Look it up actually. His 16-17 season was the aberration. The average of his others seasons was about the same as last season. So if anyone is cherry picking it's you. Mf.
     
  8. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Wow! What a difference when he plays well! Let's hope he brings it tomorrow against the Floppy Beard. We're gonna need it.
     
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    Floppy beard isn't playing.
     
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    So you are admitting that in 16-17 CJ was just as efficient as Dame was?
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    It's literally like watching Houston Catino Mobley out there.
     
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    Yes. That is totally what that post means.
     
  13. dviss1

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    Soooo.... We gon' just gloss over his MIP season?

    :dunno:

    Rookie...

    Learn the game then post.
     
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    Haha. Yeah. They’ve had remarkably similar careers so far.
     
  15. hoopsjock

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    Either you're being sarcastic which would disprove your theory that TS% "IS" efficiency or you are in fact admitting that CJ can be just as efficient as Dame. Which one is it?
     
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    Dame could be more efficient by reigning in his shot selection a bit.

    TS% is just one measure of efficiency. There are others, but TS% is the easiest way to compare (especially dealing with different positions).

    CJ is just not efficient. In the past 5 years, he's only had 1 season shooting above 0.545. I would say his 1 season shooting 0.585 is definitely an aboration.

    I view anything less than 0.56 as inefficient.

    Dame on the other hand, has only had 1 season below 0.560 (his rookie season). The last 2 years Dame has been right at 0.59. (Before tonight Dame was at 0.65!!! That is absolutely amazing!)

    Dame is significantly more efficient than CJ.
     
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    You obviously didn't read the rest of the thread, I wasn't saying that.
     
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    I read most of it... and that is sure what it sounded like you were saying.

    It appeared that you were questioning he people frustrated with CJ & cherry picking his best year as an example that he 'can be' as efficient as Dame. Their career numbers indicate that CJ cannot.
     
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    Sarcastic. Because my point was to show how cj efficiency is a net negative for the team, whereas Damian is positive because he's more efficient than the team as a whole. Having a lower ts% suggests you should be taking less shots.
     
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