Politics TRUMP SAYS HE PLANS TO SIGN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO TERMINATE BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP

I saw this last night and was waiting for a thread. The only way I could think of this working is arguing that the children aren't under our jurisdiction.

That would be quite a stretch but the Supreme Court could rule that way and there's nothing anyone could do about.

I know liberals love judges making laws...this should be fine with them.

 

Actually, I take it as, Trump is the first President to enforce the law correctly. The 14th amendment was written to codify that former slaves were residents of the US. This to put down the movement to send them back to Africa.

"Amendment XIV – Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

You should note that the former slaves, most of them born in the US were indeed subject to the jurisdiction of the US and no other country since it had been illegal to import slave for many years prior to them gaining freedom and the passing of this amendment.
I don't remember were it is exactly, perhaps Natural Law, that, No man is without a country. Thus the 14th amendment made it so.

Visitors to the country, legally or illegally, are subject to the jurisdiction of another nation, to this one only temporarily as a guest
and not at all as an illegal, that has already broken the law.

So the 14th amendment is finally interpreted correctly by Trump.

The same as we find that in the case of our own citizens born abroad. Like John McCain, a natural Born Citizen even though his place of birth was Panama. It is logical and consistent with how we enforce the law and with Natural Law as found in the
Law of Nations.

 

I had the same thought. If the fetus is the person and the woman is considered nothing more than a mobile incubator......how deep does this rabbit hole go?

 

Actually, I think it would be the correct rule and entirely fitting the original intent of the law.

 

Trump....

You sir... Are NOT an idiot.

You're "smaht".

You know exactly how to get your rabid racists out to vote.

 

If we are war with let's say...Russia. Russian forces were on our soil and Russian women soldiers got pregnant and had babies while technically on US soil should the babies be US citizens?

I don't think the founding fathers would think so. Just like they probably wouldn't want people having machine guns.

 

Your friend was either wrong or they lied to you You should do your own research.

 

Fine with me.

 

Why talk about that hypothetical situation when we have an ACTUAL one with Russia? I'll even link Fox News:

Russians paying big money to have their babies born in US

But Trump doesn't want brown people er, people from "shithole" countries coming in.

 

I know, was just using the liberal 2nd amendment argument in reverse.

The 14th was when? Couple of hundred years ago? I'd literally have to google it but my point is that people of the time didn't imagine Chinese or Russian women flying here pregant to have the baby.

 

Why is no one complaining about the million or so undocumented EUROPEANS in our country...?

We know why...

 

You already posted this as it's own thread. Thought it should be stopped then, think it should be stopped now.

If my wife gets pregnant (god forbid) I'll take her to Disneyland to give birth so my kid can get in for free because he/she was born there.