Politics White Nationalism

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    In theory, but then we see any kind of conservative speaker or viewpoint is shouted down and/or denied entry to campuses.

    There's no such thing as diverse views in college. There's the liberal view and that's it.
     
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  2. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I don't see the connection.
     
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    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Wikipedia doesn't publish opinion pieces bro. Besides, everything they mentioned very obviously equates to racism. They're not just gonna pound the keyboard in all caps and say RACIST!!!
     
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  4. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    What don't you get? I detest religion.

    White people handed us a book that told slaves to be obedient to their masters. Those slave masters were Christians...

    Again, what don't you get?
     
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  5. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Just because you don't want to talk about it doesn't mean we don't or won't.
     
  6. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Stop Nate. This is just bullshit. Conservatives speak at colleges all the time. They give commencement speeches and all that. It's the racist ones like Milo Yiannopoulos that are denied entry. If most of the students don't want him there, why the fuck should he get a platform?

    Your blanket statements are simply wrong.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I remember when it was THE AMERICAN WAY to punch a fucking Nazi in the face!!

    Now we got a racist president with Nazi supporters, who touts his German genes...

    This country has gone to shit....
     
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  8. Further

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    There are a couple differences between someone of British heritage and that of one who comes from a people who has experienced extreme racism.

    1) I am Jewish. I do not have a country of heritage. We have been kicked out of nation after nation, enslaved, killed, relegated to the lowest levels of society. So just cause my grandma came from Poland or Austria or Wherever doesn’t mean I have or want any claim of membership or pride in that land. Yet I still want to be proud of my heritage.

    Likewise, many African Americans have come from a continent but don’t know from exactly where. They do not have that same affiliation with their motherland as you may have with yours.

    2) it can be very helpful and inspirational to share that bond with others who have seen the same degradation and vile racism that you have. I am Ashkenazi Jew. That’s a genetic group of Jews who were mostly the ones persecuted by the Nazi’s. I do find pride and love in our shared history. Likewise blacks who suffered terribly over the years can find companionship and love from those who share their history. And taking pride in what they were vilified for (skin tone) is part of heeling.

    I do agree with you that color is not a good measure of character. But taking pride in the feature that caused so much pain is part of overcoming that pain and uplifting others who have also been marred by centuries of being told they are lowly and unworthy.



    The problem comes more in thinking that your genetic disposition elevates you as better than anyone else. I can be proud of being an Ashkenazi but not think that’s better than Italian, Black, Japanese or Swedish. White pride could theoretically have a similar egalitarian view but there is no core white culture from suffering and upheaval to drive a collective character. Instead, showing white pride is virtually unanimously intertwined with thinking other groups and races are inferior.




    P.S. I wrote this post yesterday but forgot to post it. All these issues may have been discussed already, I have not had a chance to read most of this thread.
     
  9. calvin natt

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    I was thinking about this the other day. These ultra-patriotic types, who fly the American flag out the back of the truck, who call themselves Patriots and all that...they are "proud to be Americans". Ok. Let's go with that. Do they think America was pro-Hitler? Do they think Americans didn't fight to stop Hitler? How can you be all about America and then also be all about being a racist? Have they not heard of the US being the "melting pot"? Do they not like that part of America? Phonies.

    Its all such a bunch of hypocrisy it drives me crazy.
     
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    Very well said. Makes total sense. Anyone who disagrees with this needs to have someone explain it to them until they understand it.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    They think you shouldn't be able to tell them how to think.

    Freedom is being free to be a moron and look down on people for their skin color.

    It happens every day by people of every skin color.

    Hypocrisy is people who say bad things about white people, complaining about white people saying bad things about them.

    Fixing the system that has held people back for no reason other than their skin color is a completely different topic.
     
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    I think there is a (clear) difference between a person saying 'bad things' about someone because of their race or religion, and then that person or other people saying bad things about those same people BECAUSE they are attacking their skin or color or religion. One initiates the other. To put it in terms a five year old would use, "they started it". It seems very logical to me.

    When people say "all violence is bad"...fuck that. If someone initiates violence against an innocent person, that's 'bad'. If the innocent person fights back, that is good. They aren't equal.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Oh, that's such nonsense. There are conservative speakers every day on college campuses.

    Yes, a few very extreme conservatives have gotten booted from a few campuses. That doesn't mean there is no diversity of opinion available.

    barfo
     
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  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Hmmm I guess I misunderstood what you were saying.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Perhaps you should gloss over it also, instead of allowing an unpleasant instant decades ago to define your entire life. We've all had bad things happen to us, you take the bad with the good and keep on truckin'. That's life, and without challenge and adversity it would be pretty lame.

    Frankly, with all the people I know personally who have dealt with racism, bullying, handicaps, chronic disease, disabling and disfiguring injuries, tragic loss of loved ones before their time, loss of their careers and homes, who soldier on without complaint or expectation of any special consideration, your constant diatribes make me feel a little embarrassed for you.
     
  16. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Actually, Christians were slaves of the Romans, persecuted for their beliefs rather than their pigment.
     
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    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    The 2 statements are not mutually exclusive.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    BLASPHEMY!

    https://www.theodysseyonline.com/church-of-santa

    The Church of Santa Claus
    The only church dedicated to the worship of Santa Claus.

    Listen--do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior, Santa Claus?

    No?

    Too bad.

    Welcome to the Church of Santa, where we worship the almighty jolly giant known as Santa Claus.

    Our jovial, gift-giving god above comes every December 25th to give thanks to all the people of the world for following in his teachings. Here's how you can join in on the worship:

    1. Santa is the one true jolly red giant above. You shall have no jolly red giants before Santa. Stars included.
    2. You shall not speak badly of Santa. Do you know how difficult it is delivering billions of presents in one night? Do you? Do you? Give the poor man a break. He only does this once every year.
    3. Remember to spread the Christmas cheer to others. Or else you will be punished. Severely. (I think the worst Santa will do involves you needing to shovel some reindeer droppings from your roof. Don't look at me--look at that stupid Rudolph who doesn't know where the bathroom is.)
    4. You shall not steal other children's presents...unless the child whose present is being stolen is asking for it. In that case, show that little sh*t who's boss and rip that 2018 Nintendo X-845 from his cold, undeserving hands. Sorry, Billy. Better luck next year.

    On this day of our lord Santa, please keep in your hearts the list he's making and checking twice. He's going to find out who's naughty or nice, and he will know which kid really deserves that Rollplay Chevy Silverado.

    P.S. You must be below the age of 7 in order to be a member of this congregation.

    P.S.S. For those few readers who are indeed aged 7 and below: failure to follow these tenants will result in excommunication and perpetual amounts of coal in your stocking. You have been warned.
     
  19. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    They are not patriotic.

    They are not Real Americans.

    Exactly like the Socialist DNC, they are anti-Americans hiding under cover while they attempt to dismantle our Constitution and our Bill of Rights and everything else about our country that makes us the best place in the world to live.
     
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    Didn't you go to Lake Oswego High School and now live in La Pine? I can't imagine much diversity at either of those places.
     
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