Politics SOCIALIST MATH

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  1. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Ocasio-Cortez calls question about how to pay for Medicare for all ‘puzzling’

    Conservative women challenge Ocasio-Cortez to a debate
    Socialist candidate subs requests from Kaya Jones, Candace Owens and Allie Beth Stuckey.

    New York congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had a quick answer when asked how Americans would pay for the 'Medicare for all' plan she and other socialist-leaning Democrats favor: "Just pay for it."

    In an interview with Jorge Ramos last week, Ocasio-Cortez was asked how she would pay for the multi-billion dollar health care plan promoted by liberal lawmakers like Sens. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Kamala Harris, D-Calif. Ramos noted critics say the the program would be "more expensive" than the current system, to which she answered that people would "just pay for it."

    “People often say, like, how are you going to pay for it and I find the question so puzzling because ‘How do you pay for something that’s more affordable? How do you pay for cheaper rent?’ You just pay for it,” she said. “We’re paying more now.”

    According to recent studies, the program, first introduced by Sanders over the summer, would increase government health spending by $32.6 trillion over 10 years.

    The spending hikes would allow the government to replace what employers and consumers currently pay for healthcare—delivering significant savings on administrative and drug costs, but increasing demand for care that would drive up spending, according to a study released by the Mercatus Center at George Mason University over the summer. The study estimated that doubling all federal individual and corporate income taxes would not fully cover the additional costs for the program.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oc...bout-how-to-pay-for-medicare-for-all-puzzling
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    No, no, no, socialist math is spending $155 Million on The Wall and thinking you're over half way toward the final $19 Billion and $845 Million needed to finish The Wall. Oh, that and getting Mexico to pay for it. I suppose he will now change over to expecting the rest of us to pay for it. Yeah, that'd be his style.
     
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    I tend to lean left on this issue. If we can afford to constantly stick our dicks in other countries' affairs, we should be able to afford to not shit all over our own citizens when they get sick. Subtract a couple billion from the "bomb other countries" fund and add it to the "medical assistance for legal citizens" fund. Seems like basic math to me.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The problem is that both parties spend a shit ton of money, just on different things.

    There's no such thing as an actually fiscally conservative party.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Its so easy, pay for it with a GST tax. I'm for healthcare for all, as long as everyone gets taxed to get it.
     
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    Historically democrats have created more jobs and have presided over more economic growth than republicans.

    At least dems spend money on people more often than corporations etc.

    That crybaby John Boehner was literally handing oil company checks out on the house floor.

    Typically republicans choose corporations over people.

    Have you ever heard of a Republican shunning PAC money?
     
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    Lol no.

    That's not a stable source of revenue.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    No other way.
     
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    I agree the US should be constrained from making war to make money, but the reasons for high costing healthcare and insurance have nothing to do with that.

    Laws and regulations can be passed to crush those costs, as has happened with telephone service and other utilities, but ALL of Congress refuses to even think about it because they are all despicable thieves. All of them. No exceptions. They could accomplish it in one session, but their souls have been purchased by the healthcare industry.

    President Trump is probably the most honest man in DC, compared to any of them.

    TERM LIMITS! NO INCUMBENTS! :cheers:
     
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    Yes, the Libertarian Party.
     
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    Can we look into socialist control on caps lock?
     
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    REAL AMERICANS USE CAPS LOCK IT IS AN EXPRESSION OF FREEDOM AS IS USING NO PUNCTUATION AND RUN-ON SENTENCES SO UNLESS YOU HATE AMERICA YOU SHOULD BE USING CAPS LOCK JUST LIKE REAL AMERICANS EVERYWHERE AND ALSO SHOOTING VARMINTS

    barfo
     
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    Nothing socialist about it. It's Capitalism at it's finest.

    It's pretty much the same as tariffs imposed by other countries, and he's treating drugs the same as Nikes and Chevys, forcing other countries to either back down or be crushed economically for gouging us.

    The end result will be better days for all concerned, at the expense of billionaire deep state financiers.

    He promised this in his campaign and like everything else he promised he is following through. :cheers:
     
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    What about his promise to make Mexico pay for the Wall? I thought that was one of the first things he was going to accomplish when he took office.
    Also, what about his promise to work with everyone in Congress including the Democrats? I haven't seen any of that.
    And then there's his promise to eliminate, or nearly eliminate murder in Chicago. What's going on with that?
    Again, wasn't Obama Care high on his list of things to eliminate? Now, here it is more popular than ever.
    The deficit was going to be reduced to zero in his first year and now it's skyrocketing out of control.
    Should I go on?
    Wasn't he going to do nothing but work? No time for golf.
    How about staying at the White House without traveling all over the place?
    Get us out of Iraq.
    Drain the swamp.
    etc.
    etc.
    etc.

    Edit: Promise to separate children from their parents. Promise kept.
    Promise to punish women who have abortion. Still waiting on that one.
    Promise to nominate idiots to his cabinet. Promise kept.
     
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