This is all we hear about in Atlanta now.. I'm sick of hearing about it, we all know he knew about and was a big part in this ILLEGAL act.. I don't care what your opinions on dog fighting is, but the fact is its illegal. It's sick that he would be a part of this, bet on it, and train 60+ dogs just so they can die in a painful way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Before Dogs were domesticated, Dogs fought all the time, it's their nature. We as people have built up animal cruelty to something it shouldnt be, it is nature for animals to kill other animals and fight.</div>I don't believe nature intended dogs to fight in a contrived confinement for enjoyment and betting, against their own will. I mean these dogs are trained by their owners for these types of events. It's not like a lion in the jungle killing another animal for food and survival.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ May 20 2007, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It doesn't really matter to me either, they're just dogs and yes they are living things but alot of animals die all the time, its a cycle of life. I wouldnt personally do it, but there are worse things someone can do. Before Dogs were domesticated, Dogs fought all the time, it's their nature. We as people have built up animal cruelty to something it shouldnt be, it is nature for animals to kill other animals and fight. We live in a savage world.</div>It isn't the cycle of life. It's not natural to force dogs to fight and kill each other.Is it the cycle of life to blow somebody's head off? Ask yourself that question and then look at dog fighting and how badly these dogs get abused/killed. Is it really that much different?I know you guys say "well people have feelings and matter..dogs don't"Do you realize how wrong that is? Have you ever had a dog? Those things are a man's best friend. What if your best friend and you were put into a cage to fight to the death?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ May 27 2007, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't believe nature intended dogs to fight in a contrived confinement for enjoyment and betting, against their own will. I mean these dogs are trained by their owners for these types of events. It's not like a lion in the jungle killing another animal for food and survival.</div>Dogs are animals of wild nature. Have you never heard of dogs in africa? They are some of the most violent animals known to man(and those are just the cousons of ours) So yes in nature dogs fight.
That's so cruel, every Vick is an idiot. Is Michael Vick, by chance, friends with Qyntel Woods? I'm sure those two assholes would get along.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ May 27 2007, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dogs are animals of wild nature. Have you never heard of dogs in africa? They are some of the most violent animals known to man(and those are just the cousons of ours) So yes in nature dogs fight.</div>Humans were also wild and would kill each other, does that mean we should abolish all laws protecting humans and allow/condone/accept murder?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ May 28 2007, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Humans were also wild and would kill each other, does that mean we should abolish all laws protecting humans and allow/condone/accept murder?</div>Human Fighting is legal its called boxing or UFC. And the point of dog fighting is not to kill but it does come to that often. and neither is boxing(but they have still had many casualties, espically when the origins from boxing comes from fights to the death) Secondly we are genetical more evolved then dogs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ May 28 2007, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Secondly we are genetical more evolved then dogs.</div>lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ May 27 2007, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dogs are animals of wild nature. Have you never heard of dogs in africa? They are some of the most violent animals known to man(and those are just the cousons of ours) So yes in nature dogs fight.</div> Nobody is denying the fact that wild animals fight. African Wild Dog's pretty much live like Wolves do. They do what they have to do to survive. Wild Dog's don't run around and kill everything, they are no more violent than Wolves or any ther dog sized predator.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Dogs are animals of wild nature. Have you never heard of dogs in africa? They are some of the most violent animals known to man(and those are just the cousons of ours) So yes in nature dogs fight.</div>It's all forced in a dog fight. It's not natural. You're comparing survival instincts with dogs in Africa that have no resources, shelter or food opposed to the dogs in these fights.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/foot...0604/index.htmlKathy Strouse, an animal control officer, was standing in front of those outbuildings as night fell on April 25 when a simple question came to her: Why the black paint? A moment passed before Strouse had an answer. At night, when most dogfights are held, no one would know these buildings were here. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ A picture is on the SI.com homepage.
I used to like vick. thought he was a good guy, fun player to watch, played the game hard...but I just don't like him at all now. dog fighting? come on. I understand drugs or alcohol or something, but dog fighting? thats just wrong.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ May 29 2007, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I used to like vick. thought he was a good guy, fun player to watch, played the game hard...but I just don't like him at all now. dog fighting? come on. I understand drugs or alcohol or something, but dog fighting? thats just wrong.</div>Agreed. Forcing dogs to fight is just sick. I don't know how someone could do that. I doubt he'll get convicted though. Athletes never do :no1:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ May 29 2007, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I used to like vick. thought he was a good guy, fun player to watch, played the game hard...but I just don't like him at all now. dog fighting? come on. I understand drugs or alcohol or something, but dog fighting? thats just wrong.</div>my thought almost exactly. He used to be one of my fav players, but now... F*ck him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ May 29 2007, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>played the game hard...</div>Actually he's admitted several times before that he hasn't played 100% in games..
<span style="font-family:Arial">Did anybody hear his comments about the entire situation? He said something along the lines of: "No matter what I do, people still love me. It don't matter anymore what I do, people love me."</span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ May 29 2007, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Arial">Did anybody hear his comments about the entire situation? He said something along the lines of: "No matter what I do, people still love me. It don't matter anymore what I do, people love me."</span></div>Yeah I heard that. He's such an ***hole its unbelievable.
<span style="font-family:Arial">They found 30 DEAD dogs on Vicks property, wow.</span>http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2885891
I just read that article and it didn't say they found any dogs. They are still trying to get a warrant is what I gathered to search for a possiblity of 30 dog carcasses.
