OT Is it true?

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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Just as some republican politicians have been accused of being buds with Duke, there are as many demo politicians that have cozied up to Louie. Ellison & Obama for a couple.
     
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    just like after 20 years under that wacko minister he denounces him when he running for office and the minister is pissing people off.
    Im not saying Pres Obama is a closet Nation of Islam soldier just that he has rubbed some elbows wit the guy, which I don't have a problem with really.
     
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    As soon as his minister said some inflammatory things Obama denounced him.
     
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    The problem I have with that Lanny is Obama sit under that mans inflammatory preaching for 20 years. I couldn't have done that, I would have left that kind of teaching immediately and not exposed my children to such hate against America. And yes, if it was and republican or libertarian attending a hate filled preachers church like that, id feel the same. He only denounced him after it became an issue during his campaigning.
     
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    How do you know that it was inflammatory for 20 years?

    Edit: Do you think Michelle Obama, "When they go low, we go high", would tolerate that for 20 years?
     
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    I do, and I appreciate her taking that stand. There are people that stay in churches because of family and maybe being raised in that denomination. I was disappointed in h,r when she said "Im finally proud to be an American". I think there is a correlation from her sitting under that pastor and her thinking that way.
    I think the Obama's are real decent people. I don't at all feel they are radical alt lefties even though they may know some, and I don't think Trump is a member of the KKK or a white supremacist, even though he may know some. People are just to quick to judge others especially in the political and religious arena.
     
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    Trump is simply a lying, cheating, corrupt POS. He makes Nixon even look like a swell guy.
     
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    He could be very well be all of that, the people just wanted the lessor of two evils, this time around, although I think she running again. The Clintons are so power hungry, they are not going g to let EW, Booker Bernie or any other extreme progressive take they feel is rightfully theirs. They are out campaigning now with a moderate message which is smart.

    Now on to something more meaningful Cup, where would you like to see the new ball park, and would you want to be AL or NL?
    Id like the Zidels or SE site.
    American league for me.
     
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    Two things. The people didn't choose Trump. The electoral college did. The people chose Clinton and there is no way anyone would ever be a more vile president than Trump. I know you hate the Clinton's but to call the Trump the lesser of two evils is wrong in my opinion. I watched a former republican politician explain it very well as she said she wants a country that can get back to its core values where we show respect to one another and work for a better cause for all the people. Policies are just policies and can be worked out but when we lose our honesty, dignity and integrity as a country then we are failing. We have lost that.

    As for baseball in Portland, I really don't have a preference on location as long as it has the best access and parking. I would be fine with AL or NL.
     
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    I realize that the electoral college which is made up from people elects the president. Its elected more than just republican's too. I don't know who's the least of two evils I never voted for either one, but I did vote for Slick Willy. I would say the Clintons have hurt many more people though than Trump has. Like I've said before this last election was a vote against the Clintons more than a vote for Trump. And many were previous Clinton supporters, because they came to realize that how corrupt they were, just ask Bernie supports.
     
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    By the way, there's no such thing as the Alt Left but there is an Alt Right.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Left
     
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    Alt right are far right hate groups and we know who they are.
    There is now an Alt left, and they too are FAR left hate groups (anarchist, commies those that shout only good cops are dead cops and pigs in a blanket, anti American, guys or gals that glorify Castro and rulers that suppress and kill their people and at the same time burn up the American Flag and denounce the USA. The extreme left hate groups that prevent freedom of speech on the college campus.
    Yes Lanny, there is an Alt Left, they are the Alternative Extreme radical lefties, and worst nightmare to what used to be mine and my fathers democratic party.
     
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    Alt Right was coined by a far Right sect.
    No one on the Left has coined the expression Alt Left. The only person that I know of you uses the expression is Trump so I guess he coined it but that does not make it an accepted expression.
    To be an accepted expression it must be broadly used and so far only the Right has used it and then not very often.
    Webster has a definition for Alt-Right but they have no definition for Alt-Left.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alt-right
    I might add that Wikipedia has a definition of Alt-Right but no definition of Alt-Left.
    I think you should find another expression that is widely accepted to describe radicals on the Left such as Far Left Radicals or Far Left Militants.
    It's not really a big deal and I feel like I may have made a mistake bringing it up but I just wanted to be factually correct. Pay no attention to me.
     
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