Denver Talk Artest Deal

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  1. Serge

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Ki...e?urn=nba,32690WOW I know the chances are slim probably just a crappy rumor, but if it really happened damn I would go crazy. (In A Good Way) Artest is a great D player I mean exactly what we need better D only other thing we need is 3 point shooting. He is my top maybe 10 players in the NBA. And if we made this move I really think we are a lock for Western Conference finals, and even finals. Now I know Dallas/Suns/and maybe even the Spurs still be there, but I see no reason with our better D why we can't do it as long as we get atleast one guy who can shoot a freakin 3 better then our guys are now.Move AI to PG, and play Artest at SG.PG - AISG - ArtestSF - MeloPF - NeneC - CambyIf the owner don't mind paying extra to win this can really get them to win. I know they probably need more then Martin, but I am sure we can add a first pick maybe next year or something.You got 2 of the top steal guys in the league AI+Artest. You got 2 D player of year kinda guys in Artest, and Camby. You got a inside scorer in Nene if he stays like he is eating right and everything like towards the end of the year double double threat every night. And the shot blocking machine, and rebounder in Camby. Camby will give 2nd chances for AI/Melo/Artest misses this can be good if Artest get's that he is the 3rd option. And if Melo decides to trust his guys more, and pass it out more when he is doubled/tripled not force as many shots as he does.I know it is a long shot, but if we could pull it of all props to the Nuggets gm.
     
  2. Amare320

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    They don't need artest.Chances are that he'd cause some trouble. I don't think the nuggets need to change things up again, it would only slow them down ..speaking of chemistry here, they do not need to work on that once again and you just know artest would effect it, what they really need is to develop and bring in young talent to there team which can surround melo 5 years from now.
     
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    I think Chauncey Billups is the one we're looking for. I mean, he has the most important thing we need: constant 3pt shooting.
     
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    The Nuggets dont need another star player to get used to. They need to focus on dominating with the core they are used to.
     
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    If he did not have all the problems, Artest would be the exact player Denver needs: a tough defensive stopper who is also a more than credible offensive threat. The problem is that he has mental problems, and there is absolutely no way he would be willing to be the third or fourth option behind Anthony, Iverson and even Nene.Basketball-wise the move makes sense... but chemistry-wise it would never work simply because of the way Artest approaches everything.
     
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    We don't need him. This offense we need to focus on improving our defense (Artest would do this, but I'll get to him later), getting a role player that is a good shooter, and chemistry. Artest won't give us a shooter and will F*ck up our chemistry. He is a great defender, but it isn't what is on paper that matters.About Chauncey, that would be such a great story, but I'm not sure we could get him. Think about it though; Chauncey coming back to Denver where he grew up, played college ball, and played for the same team as he did before. I would love it so much. He is already one of my favorite players, but once again, not sure if it will happen. He is a really good floor general who is clutch, a good defender, and can pop the 3.
     
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    I think Billups is the ideal player to play next to Iverson in the back court. He's like Eric Snow, but 100 times better at everything.
     
  8. Serge

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    [quote name='ReaL23' post='358016' date='May 17 2007, 08:49 AM']I think Chauncey Billups is the one we're looking for. I mean, he has the most important thing we need: constant 3pt shooting.[/quote]I agree actually I would like Billups, but if we don't get him AI is a very underrated passer I keep telling yal you don't average 7 assists 2 years in a row 5th in league 2 years ago, and 8th or 10th this year by accident you just don't. He need to be starting at PG Blake is good, but still AI should be the starting PG.[quote name='TheAnalyst' post='358019' date='May 17 2007, 09:32 AM']The Nuggets dont need another star player to get used to. They need to focus on dominating with the core they are used to.[/quote]They do need great D, and there is like no body better on D then Artest.[quote name='BigMo763' post='358092' date='May 17 2007, 01:53 PM']If he did not have all the problems, Artest would be the exact player Denver needs: a tough defensive stopper who is also a more than credible offensive threat. The problem is that he has mental problems, and there is absolutely no way he would be willing to be the third or fourth option behind Anthony, Iverson and even Nene.Basketball-wise the move makes sense... but chemistry-wise it would never work simply because of the way Artest approaches everything.[/quote]Exactly I agree they need D, and Artest brings GREAT D, steals, and also can score even though they don't really need scoring. I think for a year he be fine and it would work. And he is worth the risk I would deff try anything to have the Kings agree to this. And in a year if he goes nuts you trade him there be always teams who want his talent. See TO there was a few teams who wanted him after the whole Eagles thing. haha and I like TO I thought he was worth everything he did, but then again I did not think he was that bad. He is funny as crap, and his TD celebrations are of the hook.But back on topic...............I think it can work and if it don't trade him next of season he is worth the risk, and I think AI can keep him chilled atleast for a season. AI can kinda relate to Artest I think.[quote name='Camby23Land' post='358315' date='May 17 2007, 08:47 PM']We don't need him. This offense we need to focus on improving our defense (Artest would do this, but I'll get to him later), getting a role player that is a good shooter, and chemistry. Artest won't give us a shooter and will F*ck up our chemistry. He is a great defender, but it isn't what is on paper that matters.About Chauncey, that would be such a great story, but I'm not sure we could get him. Think about it though; Chauncey coming back to Denver where he grew up, played college ball, and played for the same team as he did before. I would love it so much. He is already one of my favorite players, but once again, not sure if it will happen. He is a really good floor general who is clutch, a good defender, and can pop the 3.[/quote]Artest does that we deff need him.And I think he be fine for atleast a year then you can always trade him.Billups of course be nice also if we could, but it be hard.[quote name='BigMo763' post='358550' date='May 18 2007, 01:23 AM']I think Billups is the ideal player to play next to Iverson in the back court. He's like Eric Snow, but 100 times better at everything.[/quote]Agree, but he be hard to get. But it be nice if Nuggets pulled it of. But Artest also be nice even though some may not agree.
     
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    Alll the nuggets really need right now is a scorer type like a Ben Gordon or Ray Allen. Someone to fill it up with 3's.
     
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    Serge, AI was an underrated passer like 2 or 3 years ago, now everybody knows he is a good passer stop saying that. Blake is a better passer than him and Billups would also be a much better passer than him.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ May 18 2007, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Serge, AI was an underrated passer like 2 or 3 years ago, now everybody knows he is a good passer stop saying that. Blake is a better passer than him and Billups would also be a much better passer than him.</div>No not every body a lot of people still underrate his passing. Not everyone like before pretty much, but still some do.Blake is deff not close to AI as a passer even though he did good for us he is not close to a passer like AI give me a break.And Billups should be a better passer I agree, but this past season assists for AI+Billups was the same and Billups is a true PG unlike AI.But anyway Denver needs better D and that can come with Artest, and also need 3 points shooting. They need those 2 things to pretty much lock up a title. Because if we play D, and have a 3 point shooter AI+Melo will be harder to stop with a 3 point threat.
     

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