Game Thread GAME# 16: BLAZERS @ WIZARDS - NOVEMBER 18, 2018 - SUNDAY, 3:00 PM , NBCSNW

Nurk's contract expires in 2022, Dame, CJ's and OPJ's expire in 2021.

He has a 3.9 and 3.6 BPM that past two years is in line with a lot of max guys. The idea is also to trade Harkless and Meyers for him, which would be an extra $5M over the next two years. That 3rd year would be primarily offset by Turner's contract expiring, and the cap will be $15M higher than it is now.

 

In the abstract, Porter would be a nice add. In reality, adding Porter would be the last time the team adds talent for the length of his contract. It is very possible that the team would actually shed talent as Porter's deal destroys any roster/payroll flexibility. Want to bring Curry or Stauskas back next year? Want to re-sign Aminu? Forget it.

I'm sorry - but this is silly. You only take that burden for a *great* player - a guy who will put the Blazers in the finals. Porter is not even close to being that guy.

 

Washington will in no way take on that much money as they are already in luxury tax hell, especially when they are giving up the best player.

 

Which is why I proposed this in the trade idea thread:

SAC Gets: Harkless
POR Gets: Porter Jr.
WAS Gets: Leonard, Labissiere

 

This post makes no sense to me. What talent are we gonna miss out on adding during Porters contract? The most we could hope for is to land someone of his caliber through free agency in 2020 (who wed likely have to overpay for and if not, get stuck with the same amount of talent for a slightly more than the salary cap but alightly less than if we had Porter (but thats in the rare scenario that we somehow sign someone of Porters caliber that fits as well as he does).

Who are we going to acquire that's more talented, a better fit, and has no character issues through trade without giving up multiple 1sts or core pieces? I dont think theres anyone like that.

So in terms of adding contract during the next 3 years, how are we going to add someone of Porters caliber otherwise?

Also, what talent are we gonna miss out on? Everyone except for Collins is worth less than $7M-$8M at most. They're also all easily replaceable. With the cap rising to $109M next year and $116M the year after, we'd be fine paying his contract and it wouldn't mean we'd have to shed talent. Even then, we'd be trading mediocre role players for a very good all-around SF. I'd take that in a heartbeat.

And if Collins ends up being worth $15M+, that means were contenders, and would be worth the tax payments (even in this worst case scenario, Dame and CJ at $30M, Porter at $28M, Collins at $20M, and Nurk at $12M would equal a $120M total. The luxury tax will be at $136M in 2020, so our payroll would be fine even if we had to pay Collins a near-max contract).

Bring back Curry or Stauskas? We'll have the $6M tax-payer MLE to bring them back either way, and adding $5M to our payroll wouldn't change that... And if we really want to bring back Aminu, a $5M bump wouldn't change that either. Even then, Porter operates very well as a small-ball 4 so he could make Aminu expendable just because he's talented and we have solid 2nd string wings.

His contract is a non-issue.

 

Which is why i don't think it will happen.

 

And why does Sac do that? You expect them to take on 7 mil more in salary to take on a player that has shown to be injury prone and may or may not even be as good as what they are giving up.

 

Exactly!

 

There are some ways to add a quality playe like that making a lot less but they'd have to get really lucky with a draft pick or trade for an under the radar guy on a rookie contract that ended up thriving here. Although if we didn't give up a pick for Porter those options could still be available.

 

Yes but Aminu is the better dribbler so there is that...

 

I'm guessing you're joking, but Aminu is not a better dribbler.

 

Go with your first instinct. I didn't think green font was necessary when referring to Aminu's dribbling prowess.

 

Salary wont matter to SAC, theyre under the cap amd cant attract free agents anyway. They're barely playing Skal and they're stacked at his position, and if Harkless passes a physical, he's a better player for them. They need help at SF and Harkless would be an immediate starter. They also don't have their pick and are off to a winning start through 17 games.

 

And most or all of those options will be available whether we trade for OPJ or not. If you're talking about a late-1st-round gamble in a shallow draft verae a young, legitimate starter that fibres us exactly what we need, then give me Porter.

 

Doesn't mean they want to make a trade and absorb 7 mil in salary though. They can get better value, especially considering Harkless and his health issues, plus, like any GM will tell you 2 team trades are difficult and multi team trades magnify it even more so as so many issues can derail it.

 

Because I edited this in: Salary wont matter to SAC, theyre under the cap amd cant attract free agents anyway. How can they get a better SF for a guy they're not playing at all?

Also, I said "if Harkless can pass a physical"...

Its as simple of a 3 team trade as you can get. Ask SAC if they want Moe instead of Skal. If so, use Skal and $13M+ savings as a powerful bargaining chip with Washington.

 

I think Aminu will be next year Davis for Olshey due to Collins to be pencil in has the starter.

 

Passing a physical doesn't change whether a player is injury prone and Skal is also 3 years younger and a lot less owed on his contract. It's pretty obvious what you are getting with Harkless, but there is still a lot of potential growth in Skal.We will just have to agree to disagree as I think Sac could do much better with Skal and cap space.

 

When Aminu starts to dribble, i allways hold my breath

 

I need to post this.

Stotts adjusted very well after the L Washington gave the Blazers in Portland.
He clearly had the team ready for the switching defense Washington plays.
Saw that many times with Layman, Turner, Lillard, CJ cutting backdoor on the overplay or forcing their man on the high side for the easy lob over the top from Nurk.

Goodjob on the adjustment Stotts.... It only came a game late.
But hey at least you saw your mistake.