Zach Lowe about the Blazers

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  1. illmatic99

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    Not doing Simons and a pick. One or the other. And that clutch defense stat is misleading. The sample size is 19 minutes total. We haven't been in many clutch situations this year. We were 7th with largely the same roster last season in 147 total minutes.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    LMAO. He actually responded.
     
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    I wonder what part he doesn't like?
     
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    Why wouldn't Porter work? He's as sure of a fit as there is. That's not much of a risk, asamd considering we'd trade $21M of middling role players, I don't see the downside.
     
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    Probably this part:

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/porteot01.html

    Decent player, but only a bit over average in terms of PER over his career at 15.5, and down to 13.8 this year. Is he worth an asking price of Moe, Meyers, Simons, and a first round pick? Even the Meyers haters should have to pause a minute about losing Simons' potential plus another first rounder. I agree with ET.
     
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    So lets ignore their whole body of work the past two seasons and focus on a small sample size with Porter battling against his own teams dysfunction and Layman shooting only 67 shots...
     
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    Certainly depends what kind of "troubled," but I really thought DeMarcus Cousins could have flourished with Dame as a big brother here.
     
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    I mean we're paying CJ max money to be a middling SG.
     
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    I always say not to fall in love with your own players, but I think Simons' upside is so intriguing that I wouldn't give him up unless you are talking a deal bringing back an all-star small forward.

    Throw in a first for Otto Porter?

    Ugh. No way.
     
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    You could compare Porters best season with Layman this season and it still wouldn’t convince me he’s that big of an upgrade.

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    The conclusion I come to is that I’d rather see how Layman reacts to more touches rather than drop $80M or whatever on someone that may just be a glorified version of what we already have.
     
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    Layman is the 5th option on offense in our starting unit....Porter is 2nd or 3rd on his team...that's the difference in their stat lines...If Jake had Porter's role on our team he'd pad his stats more in my view
     
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    I don't think Layman would ever be able to do this in the NBA:

     
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    What did Porter do there that Layman couldn’t also do?
     
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    Damn, I love Damon (no hetero).
     
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    Oh, now I think I understand why Turner wouldn't like this trade: 'He (Porter) operated as something of a point forward in Georgetown's offense, executing his team's sets to perfection, constantly reading and probing the defense, and facilitating exceptionally well from the high post. His court vision and passing ability is exceptional for a player his size, and he really sets the tone for his teammates with his unselfishness in always looking to make the right play. He makes simple extra passes to open shooters on the perimeter, finds cutters diving to the rim with perfectly timed bounce passes, and moves the ball ahead in transition decisively to get his teammates easy baskets that don't register in the boxscore as assists. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Otto-Porter-6528/ ©DraftExpress
     
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    I like Porter.

    But if it came down to rolling with "State Farm" and giving him an expanded role, I'd do that first.

    He's the thing, can't we do both?

    Porter will still be as available as ever before the deadline. Why can't we kick the tires on Jake's expanded role until we decide?
     
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    LOL - ET scared his job will get took.
    Although I do agree on the "nah" - that asking price is way too high!
     
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    LOL - you got that right! ET wouldn't like a better player coming here and taking his job!
    ET career PER = 12.
    ET season PER = 12.
     
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    I'm with ya on this. But in the end, I think Porter would be the better player. I want to see Jake get more minutes and more touches, but I suspect his efficiency (and our winning percentage) would take a big hit if he were the 3rd option in the starting unit. But we gotta do this LIKE NOW so that we know whether we should make a pitch for Porter.
     
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    Bingo!

    Bingo!
     
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