<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 19 2007, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah theres busts in college, but most of the time when a player that the magnitude of Darius Miles, Kwame Brown etc. are thought to be good enough for NBA, they are defiently though to be good enough for college</div>Kwame and Darius didn't have the mentality for the NBA, which I acknowledged before that not everyone should make the jump from HS to college. But if you are a Kobe, LeBron or Amare, and you can develop for a year in the NBA with the highest talent rather than pointlessly dominating college...the next season you will be the same age as that player drafted out of college yet you will be more NBA ready (assuming you got decent minutes and won't be limited to 10MPG). <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>and its rare a high prospect is a "bust".</div>Oh boy is that wrong.. And I wasn't even referring to a high prospect out of college, I was talking about a high prospect out of HS who decides to go to college and still ends up being average at best or a total bust.
your confusing me, when I said theres hardly any busts, I meant, when a player is scouted high from highschool, and they go to college...they usually are pretty good.Theres no convincing you, but college DOES make players better...or else everybody would be jumping if they couldve. Kobe Bryant could have become a more rounded player earlier if he went to college...thats not taking anything way from him though cause in his 3rd season at 19 he was awesome.
Big men are still a big part of the game for sure. You need someone to pass it down low were he can get doubled/tripled, and pass it out. Now other teams can be good with out a big men, but I really think teams need one.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 19 2007, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>your confusing me, when I said theres hardly any busts, I meant, when a player is scouted high from highschool, and they go to college...they usually are pretty good.</div>But this is not always the case, as it was not always the case with high schoolers being drafted to the NBA. But considering the fantastic ratio of stars/busts in players drafted straight out of HS, you can't say HS to NBA players hindered anything. If terms of fans and their viewing pleasure, we now get to see these players playing at a high level for longer than their draft mates due to age.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Theres no convincing you, but college DOES make players better...or else everybody would be jumping if they couldve. Kobe Bryant could have become a more rounded player earlier if he went to college...thats not taking anything way from him though cause in his 3rd season at 19 he was awesome.</div>Once again, if you have NBA level talent out of high school, it is much more wise to go straight to the league. College is for developing your talent and such with players at your level, and to raise your draft stock. If your talent level is past the realm of college players, then you should do that developing with the best of the best. This gives you longer NBA longetivity and experience right off the bat. Players like Kobe, JO and T-Mac all weren't given the chance, whether it be because of all stars at their position on the roster, or fights with coaches. But despite this, they developed into superstars, and Kobe and T-Mac have broken many "youngest players to rech ____" marks. When coaches and GM's saw the success of these players, they then drafted more players out of HS and gave them the correct numbers of minutes off the bat. This is why Amare and LeBron won back to back ROTY's (and Dwight in '05 was 2nd in voting next to Okafor I believe).By 20 years old Kobe had 28 games of playoff experience under his belt, 200 games of regular season experience, played with many different vets and all stars, etc... By 20 years old, this enabled him to help carry the Lakers to a ring. Due to arriving in the league this early, he is right with AI on the all time scoring list, but a few years younger. He has longer NBA longetivity because of his HS jump, and his development worked out brilliantly.
Look around the league, you need PF/C's that can score and intimidate on defense. Without them your like the Chicago Bulls and the Suns without Amare Stoudemire, big's are harder to find so GM's pick them much higher in the draft. I'll never believe this nonsense that the NBA is becoming a guard league, all these high-scoring small teams hit the floor when faced with a more balenced/equally good opponent.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ May 19 2007, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Look around the league, you need PF/C's that can score and intimidate on defense. Without them your like the Chicago Bulls and the Suns without Amare Stoudemire, big's are harder to find so GM's pick them much higher in the draft. I'll never believe this nonsense that the NBA is becoming a guard league, all these high-scoring small teams hit the floor when faced with a more balenced/equally good opponent.</div>couldnt have said it better.
