OT Fed EX Driver Won't be Charged in Death of Racist

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    GOOD. Self defense.

    By the way Fed Ex drivers going 45 in my neighborhood drive me insane.

    I may have been the guy who flipped out on him except I think I'd just call him a stupid mother fucker and scream there's kids in this neighborhood.

    I don't know how they get away with driving so fast. Without googling it I bet that if they do have some gps trackers on those trucks they know how to rig them.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The other guy swung first. It was self defense.

    I will say this, if you're on the job and you're driving, if someone yells at you to slow down, you don't stop the truck to have an argument. You just wave and keep going. There was no reason to engage with the guy in the first place.

    "Mr Magnuson was living in a van near the park where the deadly encounter occurred, district attorney spokesman Brent Weisberg told The Washington Post."

    The guy was clearly homeless and most likely also mentally ill.
     
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    Murder.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    If I take a swing at you, are you allowed to swing back?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    What's funny is that if the roles were reversed and a black guy took a swing at an elderly white guy, I can guarantee that Maris would say the guy was totally within his rights to shoot him.
     
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    I thought you were a big gun advocate and claim it is for protection against " bad hombres". Is this different?
     
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    When you get out of you truck to punch a man on foot. Self defense is not on your mind or in your heat.
    Unless of course you are in Multnomah county.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    He.

    Swung.

    First.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Since I know some of you won't be bothered to actually READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE

    "
    A FedEx delivery driver who punched a man who shouted racial slurs at him will not face criminal charges after the man later died, officials announced.

    Timothy Warren was driving his truck through a Portland, Oregon, neighbourhood when Joseph Magnuson began to shout at him to tell him that he was going too fast.

    Mr Warren stopped his truck and tried to explain to Mr Magnuson that he was exhausted and just wanted to finish his work.


    But Mr Magunson did not stop shouting and began hurling racist insults at him.

    Mr Warren, who is black, stepped out of the truck and both men shouted at one another.

    Mr Magnuson went to punch Mr Warren, who then punched back and hit Mr Magnuson's left eye.

    The 55-year-old man then fell to the ground and briefly lost consciousness. He died later that evening.

    Prosecutors have decided not to charge Mr Warren with a crime.

    He did not intend to kill Mr Magnuson and acted in self-defence during the incident on 26 September, the Multnomah County District Attorney's Office said in a memo.

    Mr Magnuson's death from the fall was precipitated by “extremely poor health,” a medical examiner concluded and the punch itself was not fatal, Senior Deputy District Attorney Adam Gibbs wrote.

    Mr Warren was within his legal right to challenge Mr Magnuson's “racist vitriol,” Mr Gibbs noted. He said Warren's decision to confront Mr Magnuson - rather than ignore him - was not legally significant.

    Oregon law does not carry a “duty to retreat” provision that would have required Warren to reasonably remove himself from danger, Mr Gibbs wrote.

    Prosecutors and police pieced together events using accounts from six eyewitnesses, three of whom saw the entire incident. They all maintained that Mr Warren had driven at an acceptable speed and that Mr Magnuson started the incident, and then escalated it.

    “Mr Magnuson's actions, as reported by all three witnesses and Mr Warren, gave rise to a reasonable belief on Mr Warren's part that a limited use of force was necessary to prevent injury to himself,” Mr Gibbs wrote.

    The Washington Post." data-reactid="30" style="margin-bottom: 1em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Mr Magnuson was living in a van near the park where the deadly encounter occurred, district attorney spokesman Brent Weisberg told The Washington Post.

    Mr Warren, whose age wasn't released, could not be reached for comment.

    Oregonian newspaper reported. It was unclear why prosecutors had only recently released information about the incident." data-reactid="32" style="margin-bottom: 1em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The announcement by the prosecutor's office was the first public mention of Mr Magnuson's death and the ensuing investigation, the Oregonian newspaper reported. It was unclear why prosecutors had only recently released information about the incident.

    It is also unclear whether Mr Warren still works for FedEx. The company declined to comment on his status.

    The company, which said it cooperated fully during the investigation, extends “condolences to those affected”, FedEx Ground spokeswoman Nikki Mendicino said in a statement.
     
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    I have no love for the FedEx driver. He should have apologized. The "I'm exhausted" bullshit excuse just means you admit you are going too fast and were doing it on purpose. I hate those fuckers driving those huge trucks so fast.

    See it all the time. That has nothing to do with race.

    The 55 year old guy shouldn't have tried to punch him and he'd still be alive.

    The important part is that there is no way a jury would convict the guy.... No need to waste money on a trial.
     
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    Well, I don't suppose the ole boy figured it was going to be his lucky day, with guy charge him after stopping the truck.
     
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    Who cares what word he used? Several witnesses said that the guy was using racist insults.
     
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    Were you there? Shit, I must have missed that part in the article.
     
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    You don't consider someone that yells racial slurs at someone to be racist? Would you rather them labeled as Republicans? lol
     
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    Do you suppose he came hat in hand?
     
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    Well what do we know?
    First, the guy was yelling racial slurs as witnessed by 6 different witnesses
    2nd) The guy threw the first punch thus starting the incident as witnessed by several witnesses
    3rd) The guy was hit, fell and died. He was also considered to be in very poor health which likely contributed to his death.
     
  18. Chris Craig

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    Who is infering now?
     
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    I do not infer the fellow came, hat in hand.
     
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    There is no mention of a kiss. I can't imagine that was his reason for getting out of his truck and coming to the ole boy.
     

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