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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    EW would be a much better pick for the dems than Harris, imo.
     
  2. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Not sure what you're upset about.

    You can't be seriously comparing anything she said to anything the asshat you voted for said.

    He's not smaght...
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Then why do you support the side who doesn't want to punish the corporations for hiring them?
     
  4. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

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    How can anyone think that wages have nothing to do with the abundance of Labor?
     
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  5. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    That's the part that drives me insane. They talk a good game then bow to their corporate masters.

    That's why I don't "support" the Republicans.

    They're just not as bad as the Democrats.

    Hence......Trump. I started a thread about Hillary dogging on European deplorables but nobody cares.

    She's trying out her knew line of bullshit over there to see how it works.
     
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  6. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I've never supported Hillary. :dunno:
     
  7. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I wouldn't be that big of a dick to accuse you of supporting her.

    If we can't get the billions of dollars out of politics we're all screwed.
     
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    Hobbesarable Cartoon Character

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    I think we're already screwed. But that's for another thread.
     
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  9. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    are you saying that low unemployment has nothing to do with better wages?
     
  10. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Mexico will be tightening their southern border soon, as the problem becomes theirs rather than ours. :cheers:

    Trump administration makes tentative deal to force asylum-seekers to wait in Mexico: report


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    Adam Shaw | Fox News

    The president believes the need for the wall couldn’t be more apparent or urgent; My Faith Votes communications director Audrea Decker and Run for America founder David Burstein discuss.

    The Trump administration has reportedly made a deal with Mexico’s incoming government to require all asylum-seekers coming from the south of the border to wait in Mexico while their asylum claims goes through court.

    The Washington Post, citing Mexican officials and senior members of president-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s transition team, reported Saturday that the Remain in Mexico plan would require asylum applicants to stay in Mexico, therefore ending the “catch-and-release” practice whereby those seeking asylum are allowed to stay in the U.S.

    Should the policy be implemented, it would mark a significant victory for President Trump, whose tough immigration stance -- including his promises to end catch-and-release and build a wall -- has formed a central part of his political platform both before and after his election.

    “President Trump has developed a strong relationship with the incoming Obrador Administration, and we look forward to working with them on a wide range of issues.” Deputy Press Secretary Hogan Gidley told Fox News.

    The deal also comes as Trump has set his sights in recent weeks on the latest migrant caravan to travel through Honduras and Guatemala toward the U.S. southern border. He has expressed determination to stop the caravan reaching the U.S., deploying troops to the border and warning of consequences should countries assist the caravan in its journey.

    The reported deal is likely to be seen by Trump’s supporters as proof that his hardline rhetoric has resulted in success. The Post reported that the deal took shape in Houston during a meeting including Marcelo Ebrard, Mexico’s incoming foreign minister, and top U.S. officials such as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

    However, incoming Mexican Interior Minister Olga Sanchez Cordero told The Post that the deal would be a “short-term solution.”

    “The medium- and long-term solution is that people don’t migrate,” Sánchez Cordero said. “Mexico has open arms and everything, but imagine, one caravan after another after another, that would also be a problem for us.”
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Selling drugs and working as prostitutes are not occupations.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    What invading force? Are you referring to all those women and children who have American law protecting their right to seek asylum? You must be referring to all the rapists, murderers, ISIS, MS13, diseased incorrigibles that comprise nearly all the 'caravan'.

    By the way, whenever I see our feeble minded President refer to the 'caravan' I'm reminded of the Dodge Caravan. I never see that word used except for the Dodge or some old Errol Flynn movie where he's someplace in Arabia traveling with a caravan of camels.
     
  13. MARIS61

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    Wow.

    So all Mexicans are hookers and pushers to you. Got it.
     
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    Caravan is a purposelessly misleading label invented by the same globalists who created the invasion as Trojan Horse was too obvious.
     
  15. SlyPokerDog

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    Here is the full hearing transcript. There was a bit more then what you've been quoting. Do I agree with what she said? No. Do I support ICE? Yes. But I read the same headlines that you did, it was some hair on fire type of stuff that didn't present the full picture of that and why she brought up the whole KKK thing. It's similar to a discussion/complaint that we've had in this forum concerning a mod. Can a mod who hates Trump moderate people who like Trump? Can a person who has previously compared democrats to the KKK run a government agency that serves all Americans? Obviously I believe they can but it needs to be on a case by case basis. Again, I personally think she fumbled the ball on the point she was trying to make but the full transcript and context of what was said should be seen.

    SEN. KAMALA HARRIS: Thank you Mr. Chairman, and I’d like to emphasize your point. This is a hearing to determine who will be the next head of ICE, so this is about reviewing the perspectives, the qualifications, and the experience of the nominee. So, that being said, I think, Mr. Vitellio [sic], that you would agr- -- have I pronounced your name correctly?

    RONALD VITIELLO: Vitiello [pronounced “Vitello”].

    HARRIS: Vitiello.

    VITIELLO: Thank you.

    HARRIS: I think you would agree as a member of law enforcement that law enforcement generally speaking —and certainly it would be the case with ICE officers and agents — that a great deal of your power is discretionary. You have limited resources and you make decisions about what you’re gonna do, but you exercise a great deal of discretion in terms of how you are going to use the limited resources and how you are gonna prioritize them.

    And then, understanding that, I think you would also agree that one’s perspective and their bias, if they have bias, will influence their exercise of discretion in terms of the power they have and how it will be used and implemented. So I want to return to the question that Senator Peters asked you about the statement you made describing the Democratic Party as “liberalcratic” or “NeoKlanist,” which was -- I think the assumption there was that you were comparing it to the Klu, Ku Klux Klan -- Klu [sic] Klux Klan, the KKK. So, you said in response to his question, you’re sorry because the words caused offense. So, would you not be sorry if no one was offended by your words?

    VITIELLO: No, it was wrong to do.

    HARRIS: Why was it wrong?

    VITIELLO: Because those are offensive words.

    HARRIS: Why are they offensive?

    VITIELLO: Because they have history in this country and, and -- I, I honestly didn’t mean it that way.

    HARRIS: But please talk about the history. What is the history that would then make those words wrong?

    VITIELLO: Well, the Klan was what we would call today a domestic terrorist group.

    HARRIS: Why? Why would we call them “domestic terrorist group” [sic]?

    VITIELLO: ‘Cause they tried to use fear and force to change political environment [sic].

    HARRIS: And what was the motivation for the use of fear and force?

    VITIELLO: It was based on race and ethnicity.

    HARRIS: Right. Are you aware of the perception of many about how the power and the discretion at ICE is being used to enforce the laws? And do you see any parallels?

    VITIELLO: I do not see any parallels between sworn officers and agents-

    HARRIS: [interrupting] I’m talking about perception. I’m talking about perception.

    VITIELLO: I do not see a parallel between what is constitutionally mandated as it relates to enforcing the law-

    HARRIS: [talking over Vitiello] Are you aware that there’s a perception -- are you aware that there’s a perception-

    VITIELLO: I see no perception that puts ICE in the same category as the KKK. Is that what you’re asking me?

    HARRIS: No, I’m very specific about what I’m asking you. Are you aware of a perception that the way that the discretion-

    VITIELLO: [interrupting] I see no parallel.

    HARRIS: I’m not finished.

    VITIELLO: I see none.

    HARRIS: I’m not finished. I’m not finished. Are you aware that there’s a perception that ICE is administering its power in a way that is causing fear and intimidation, particularly among immigrants and specifically among immigrants coming from Mexico and Central America? Are you aware of that perception?

    VITIELLO: I do not see a parallel between the power and the authority that ICE has to do its job and the agents and officers who do it professionally and excellently with lots of compassion-

    HARRIS: [interrupting] Sir, how can you be the head of an agency and be unaware of how your agency is perceived by certain communities?

    VITIELLO: There’s a lot of perceptions in the media and in the public that are incorrect about the agency and what it does-

    HARRIS: [interrupting] But the perception exists, would you agree, whether or not it’s correct? And wouldn’t you agree then that if that perception exists, there might need to be some work done to correct the perception?

    VITIELLO: I do want to advocate for the workforce that the vital public safety mission that they have to protect the homeland [sic], and I think more people need to know how valuable they are to the society, so I agree with you on that.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Thanks for posting that, I had been too lazy to figure out what had actually been said. Clearly very different than what has been posted here.

    barfo
     
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    And do you see any parallels?

    VITIELLO: I do not see any parallels between sworn officers and agents-

    HARRIS: [interrupting] I’m talking about perception. I’m talking about perception.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You aren't editing it enough to make it look really bad. There, I helped you out.

    barfo
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    OMG people that are breaking the law percieve the people mandated with enforcing those laws as BAD!!!!

    Oh no
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    The only mistake he made was apologizing.

    He thinks Demonrats are scum and she thinks borders should be wide open.

    Let's all speak the truth.
     

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