Politics Mueller says Manafort lied after pleading guilty, should be sentenced immediately

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    I applaud too!

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    Jerome Corsi blasts special counsel probe as 'political witch hunt,' 'memory test'

    By Samuel Chamberlain | Fox News
    Jerome Corsi addresses charges against him in Mueller probe.

    Conservative author Jerome Corsi told Fox News' "Tucker Carlson Tonight" on Tuesday that special counsel Robert Mueller's investigators accused him of lying under oath only after "I couldn't give them what they wanted."


    Corsi spoke to Fox News one day after he announced he would reject a deal with investigators that would have required him to plead guilty to perjury. A draft court filing prepared as part of the abortive plea deal, which Corsi has provided to multiple media outlets, said Corsi notified Trump adviser Roger Stone in August 2016 that WikiLeaks intended to release information damaging to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

    "Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps. One shortly after I’m back. 2nd in Oct. Impact planned to be very damaging," Corsi wrote to Stone in an email apparently referencing Assange. "Time to let more than [Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta] to be exposed as in bed w enemy if they are not ready to drop [Clinton]. That appears to be the game hackers are now about."

    Days earlier, on July 25, the document stated that Stone emailed Corsi asking him to "Get to [Assange] [a]t Ecuadoran Embassy in London and get the pending [WikiLeaks] emails." The document indicated that Corsi forwarded Stone's email to Ted Malloch, a London-based author and Trump supporter.

    Corsi told host Tucker Carlson that he has had "no contact with Julian Assange whatsoever" and claimed he initially told investigators that he did not remember forwarding Stone's initial email to Malloch.

    "The special counsel came in ... and they actually sent me home and gave me an opportunity to review the emails," Corsi said. "When I came back, I amended the testimony to say that I now remember the email. The special counsel was happy with that until I couldn’t give them what they wanted, which was a connection that I had with Assange – that they assumed I had, which I didn’t have. Now suddenly, they forgot they allowed me to amend my testimony and they’re going back to the mistake I made when I forgot the email."


    Corsi, the onetime Washington bureau chief of the website Infowars, told Carlson that despite having no contact with Assange, he had "figured out that Assange had Podesta’s emails. I figured that out and told Roger Stone and told many people in August and it just happened that I was right."

    In echoes of Trump, Corsi described the Mueller investigation as "a political witch hunt," "completely rigged" and "politically driven by Clinton operatives who have an agenda." He also described his interview with investigators as a "memory test."

    "They ask you a question, they have material they won’t show you, you’ve forgotten about it, and they say ‘You just lied because this email you forgot about in 2016 proves your current memory is wrong,'" he said.

    "Roger's right," added Corsi, referring to Stone. "If you can't give them what they're looking for to fill their narrative, they blow you up and charge you with a crime."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/je...sel-probe-as-political-witch-hunt-memory-test
     
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    Paul Manafort’s Lawyer Told Trump Team What His Client Said To Mueller: Report

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/paul-manafort-lawyer-told-trump-021628419.html

    Paul Manafort's Laywers regularly updated Trumps Lawyers on everything they discussed with Mueller. If Trump tries to end or effect the investigation any way he will be committing obstruction of Justice. He likely already has. I hope Trump, I mean his lawyers answered those questions real well. More indictments coming.
     
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    You always know when trump is rattled as he goes on a twitter rampage with lies and name calling. It's funny to watch his meltdowns
     
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    LOL. Yahoo as a “news” source.
     
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    It's based on the NY Times article I posted yesterday.

    Also Rudy just said that it's true.
     
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    Sly is naive? Well then explain to all of us uninformed people how you can be charged for perjury if you tell the truth? Also, how is Mueller a tool of the democrats? The Senate and the House are controlled by the republicans right now and several republicans have said the investigation needs to run its course. It's unfortunate guys like you and maris are running around with blinders on and sad how you support a president so blindly that has made the USA hated by many throughout the world. We no longer have the respect of the world and the division in this country is at an all time high due to this pretend president.
     
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    He was elected President, duly elected as the Constitutions prescribes.
     
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    Mistakes happen all the time in life. His 35 to 40% base won't be enough to carry him next time if he lasts that long.
     
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    You contradict yourself. You can't have it both ways.

    You say there's no truth owed to the police...
    So they should lie... To police...

    But then you say there's no crime....

    So... Why would they need to lie? (Care to answer this?)

    And... We should lie to the police?
     
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    It's even less than that now.

    16% of Republicans are against re-election.
    59% of Independents are against re-election.
     
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    Seriously?
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mu...mp-allies-anger-toward-probe-risks-backfiring

    Mueller hardball fuels Trump allies’ anger toward probe, risks backfiring

    By Brooke Singman | Fox News

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s tough tactics with investigation targets and witnesses are fueling complaints about the probe from President Trump and his allies at a critical stage, as key cooperation efforts seem to break down.

    Just this week, conservative author Jerome Corsi balked at a plea deal after complaining the Mueller team wanted him to admit to lying (which he claims he didn't do) only after he “couldn’t give them what they wanted.” He tweeted Wednesday he now plans to pursue a complaint against Mueller's team.

    Further, Mueller's team has accused ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort of violating his plea deal by lying to investigators, amid reports his cooperation agreement was not panning out how prosecutors had hoped.

    More information also has come to light about the nature of those Mueller-Manafort interactions, as it emerged Manafort's legal team has been briefing Trump's team about their discussions. The briefings reportedly fueled tensions with Mueller's investigators, though it was already known that the president's and Manafort's legal teams have a joint defense agreement, meaning they share information.

    But through these briefings, Trump's team learned about Mueller's focused line of questioning.

    Specifically, top prosecutor Andrew Weissmann has been pumping Manafort for information about the president, with a focus on the highly scrutinized meeting at Trump Tower in June 2016 with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, and whether Trump knew about it in advance.

    Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani said the president is very upset with how Manafort has been treated, saying they keep hammering him with the same questions apparently seeking different answers.

    Manafort already was convicted on multiple counts of financial fraud over the summer in connection with work he completed in Ukraine as a political consultant. A subsequent deal in a related case was seen as an opening for Mueller's prosecutors to get new information, but that possibility seems to be diminishing.

    In a court filing on Monday, Mueller, Weissmann and several other investigators accused Manafort of violating his plea deal, which was agreed upon in September.

    “After signing the plea agreement, Manafort committed federal crimes by lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Counsel’s Office on a variety of subject matters, which constitute breaches of the agreement,” Mueller, Weissmann, Jeannie Rhee and Greg Andres wrote in a court filing Monday.

    But Manafort’s attorneys say he believes he has provided “truthful information” and “does not agree with the government’s characterization or that he has breached the agreement.”

    James Trusty, a former federal prosecutor and senior Justice Department official, noted a judge will ultimately decide whether Manafort violated his plea deal.

    “The breach of a plea agreement is a spectacularly ugly moment for everyone involved,” Trusty, now a white-collar attorney at Ifrah Law, told Fox News. “If you are found by the judge by a preponderance of evidence to have breached the agreement, you lose every good thing in it, but you’re stuck with the bad.”

    He added: “This is going to see daylight and be fully litigated, and then we can make an informed judgment whether Mueller’s team is asking him the same questions over and over, or pursuing a real investigation and being sidetracked by a liar.”

    Regardless of how that dispute resolves, Mueller's tactics run the risk of shutting down witnesses like Corsi.

    In Trump World, anger and resentment toward the probe into Russian meddling and potential collusion with Trump campaign associates in the 2016 election is only building, as seen in the president's incendiary tweet-storm on Tuesday saying the probe is "ruining lives." He added Wednesday, “While the disgusting Fake News is doing everything within their power not to report it that way, at least 3 major players are intimating that the Angry Mueller Gang of Dems is viciously telling witnesses to lie about facts & they will get relief. This is our Joseph McCarthy Era!”

    Former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova, a Trump ally, called Weissman “one of the most unethical prosecutors ever to be in the Justice Department.”

    Weissmann has overseen controversial prosecutions in the past that ultimately resulted in dismissed convictions and allegations of prosecutorial misconduct.

    Meanwhile, Corsi plans to reject a potential deal with Mueller involving a perjury plea. The crucial piece of information was that he purportedly notified Trump associate Roger Stone in August 2016 that WikiLeaks intended to release information damaging to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

    But Corsi complained he was cornered by Mueller, blasting the probe in an interview with Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” He said he did not knowingly give prosecutors false information, claiming he forgot about emails shown to him during his first interview, noting they were among 60,000 contained on a laptop he provided to the special counsel’s office.

    “The special counsel came in … and they actually sent me home and gave me an opportunity to review the emails,” Corsi said Tuesday. “When I came back, I amended the testimony to say that I now remember the email. The special counsel was happy with that until I couldn’t give them what they wanted, which was a connection that I had with [Julian] Assange—that they assumed I had, which I didn’t have.”

    He added: “Now suddenly, they forgot they allowed me to amend my testimony and they’re going back to the mistake I made when I forgot the email.”

    Corsi described the investigation as “a political witch hunt,” echoing the president’s long-standing sentiment of the probe, further describing his interviews with investigators as a “memory test.”

    “They ask you a question, they have material they won’t show you, you’ve forgotten about it, and they say, ‘You just lied because this email you forgot about in 2016 proves your current memory is wrong,” Corsi said. “If you can’t give them what they’re looking for to fill their narrative, they blow you up and charge you with a crime.”

    Mueller’s team has secured several guilty pleas related to making false statements to federal investigators as part of the probe.

    But Trusty told Fox News that “does not suggest a particularly successful investigation.”

    “It’s heavy on false statement charges, and that doesn’t suggest that it’s moving in the right direction for the prosecution,” Trusty said. “It doesn’t suggest to me that they’re making a lot of headway on the substance of their investigation which is Russian collusion.”

    He added: “As an ex-prosecutor, false statements are very distant second place.”

    Trusty also said that during the FBI’s investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server, investigators and former FBI Director James Comey “swore off ever pursuing false statements charges,” quoting a recent Justice Department inspector general report.

    “Are there two sets of rules?” Trusty said. “It’s a fair question that someone in the FBI or Justice Department ought to answer at some point.”

    DiGenova, who has informally advised the president throughout the probe, suggested that Mueller was running a “parallel Justice Department.”

    “These threats to Dr. Corsi and to Paul Manafort are a manifestation of a fatally flawed constitutionally corrupt investigation,” diGenova said. He added: “If you’re a Democrat, you get off scot-free, with immunity, and are able to destroy evidence and ignore subpoenas. If you’re a Republican, you’re going to jail no matter what.”

    Despite the drama with witnesses, speculation is widespread that Mueller has much more information than prior reports indicate and could be preparing to strike with more indictments.

    The president submitted his written answers to Mueller’s questions in the probe last week, marking a major milestone in the investigation. His attorneys said that despite their serious issues with the probe, the president has provided “unprecedented cooperation.”
     
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    Yes. It would be nice if you actually answer questions rather than continually hide behind copy and paste jobs from the extremely biased fox new.
     
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    Mueller is not the police.
    He is not part of any Constitutional branch of government.
    Not answerable to the Chief executive according to the Democrats.
    Not answerable to the electorate or to anyone that is.
     
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    I completely agree, these people are nothing but victims. Do you know how hard it is to remember when the truth is when you've been telling lies for years? It's just not fair.
     
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    Of course he isn't the police. He is a special investigator under the FBI. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
     
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    I thought you were joking or something, but remember you asked for it. This explains why your posts never make sense, because you post without even rudimentary knowledge of the subject.

    Any 3rd grader knows any person can be charged with a crime whether they are guilty or not. Just as any person can be sued whether they are guilty or not.

    Otherwise we'd just have a hanging tree rather than a Judicial Sysstem.

    Being charged with a crime does not carry with it any finding of guilt, in fact it carries a presumption of innocence unless ultimately found guilty after the conclusion of a trial.
     

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