It’s been 17 games. Is that enough to make a judgement? If not, it’s close. Doesn’t necessarily have to be permanent but I think Layman deserves minutes over Curry. Layman could expand his game with the second unit. If not Layman, maybe Trent. He’s the only one on the team who hasn’t been given a chance to play rotational minutes.
I'd probably rather see Layman at this point as well. I feel like because Curry was our "prized" FA get this summer, Stotts and the FO will continue to prioritize playing him no matter how low his advanced stats get.
Nope. I dont agree. They need to sit ET, and they definitely need to quit putting ET and Aminu out there at the same time. Curry needs to play point in the second unit thats his natural position. Put Trent or Simons, or Jake in there. Let the second unit have 5 guys who can hit a shot, and the whole unit is pumpfake, dive, kick, ball movement player movement. No ET pounding the ball, no ET ruining spacing for Zach in the paint. I know ET has been better this year buts its mainly because they’re force feeding the ball to him way too much. They need to quit that experiment in my mind, let seth be the guy who brings the ball up and gets the 2nd unit into their plays.
Why? You seriously think his 28% clip from inside the arc is who he is? He was a 50% 2pt shooter in 118 games before this year, so you dont think he'll regress to the mean in that area? Because his 2pt shooting is the only area where hes struggling right now.
Turner might be overpaid and a shooting liability, but his defense is generally good and he's still versatile enough to put up a 6/7/7 statline on a night like tonight, while Curry hasn't even sniffed a line like that. Curry has basically just stood around all season and shown little playmaking ability or inclination to do anything besides spot up from the arc. Of course that is Turner's primary weakness. If you could combine the two of them you'd have a pretty good player, but that good player would be like 80% Turner and 20% Curry.
That's not really his game though, I feel like some of his struggles is because hes not a big enough part of the offense.
Yeah he’s stood around all season because Turners usage rate is rediculous compared to his talent level, when the second unit struggles its usually because ET’s presence is kind ofnet negative for the spacing of every guy out there. They brought in a PG and our making him play shooting guard, and way over bought on a SF and are having him play point forward. The whole ET experiment this year to me has been sort of a disaster...
Maybe, it's different from how he played in Dallas, but the onus is on Curry to make things happen while he's out there. It'd be one thing if he weren't getting minutes but he's played a fair amount. He averages the same MPG as Stauskas but Nik seems much more active and engaged in the offense.
At this point, I'm fine benching Turner for anyone who can make a fucking free throw. I'm not, however, sure if that's Layman. Statistically, he's a pretty shitty FT shooter but the sample size is tiny. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Trent Jr. get a little burn. The guy doesn't seem to lack self-confidence and shot .876 FT% in college on a significant sample size (85 - 97). In addition to making FTs he's good at drawing them (based on college and summer league, anyway). Yeah, I get that he's a rookie and hasn't proven anything at this level, but I'd like to see him get a chance. BNM
I go back to thats what Nik is on offense. He’s a run around screens and shoot 3’s guy who can drive if he’s over played. Seth is a PG, their kind of forcing a square peg in a round hole with seth.
Unfortunately, Turner is a triangular peg that doesn't fit any of our holes. Wait, let me rephrase that... BNM
I loathe Turner's game but I feel like he's done a credible enough job of leading the bench's offense this year. Where we run more into trouble is when Turner is playing heavy minutes with the starters, particularly CJ but Dame as well, since teams can sell out more and ignore Turner outside. Curry hasn't shown much PG ability thus far, neither here nor in his previous stops. His AST% is generally at or below CJ levels.
For the record while some stats like Seth, I think overall his contribution has been dissapointing so I agree to that extent. I just believe its really hard to put that all on him, I think the way he’s being used makes no sense at all when considering who he has been as a player.
Yeah curry is just an undersized CJ who is either mentally or physically different than the guy he was two years ago. When’s the last time he even took on a defender one on one? That’s who he was in Dallas. That’s an issue, and I’m leaning toward it being mental. Is that worse than physical?
Things were working much better earlier in the season when Turner was ONLY playing with the second unit. It has only been recently that Stotts has been playing him with Dame and C.J. at the end of games and he/we have sucked in those situations. BNM
