Politics Psychedelic mushroom legalization effort in Oregon gets ballot language approval

Reducing penalties is not the same as legalization.

 

What is the statement from the Oregon AG all about?

 

I don't even want to think about how many ways this could backfire....I think they'll destroy your liver and would hate to think what idiot drivers would use them on the roads I drive on. I don't think they should be any different than any other toxic mushroom in the woods because in the end, that's what they are...mild poison.

 

You guys are funny. Magic mushroom are great and actually safer than any other drug out there... Look it up. They also are very effective in treating depression, anxiety and PTSD. They don't destroy your liver and like any substance you shouldn't drive while using them.

 

Sure why not? Seriously. Drug use should not be illegal. It should be regulated and treated like a social issue not a criminal one.

 

There used to be a Catholic Nunnery on Kruse way in what's now Lake Oswego. They raised cows which dumped a lot of shit on the pasture. Mushrooms grew like crazy, especially psychedelic mushrooms. Hippies would go there to pick psychedelic mushrooms which drove the Nuns nuts.

 

Couldn't disagree more.....I'm a mushroom hunter and have been told by many mycologists that the hallucinations from mushrooms is actually the body freaking out from trying to process it. I've been told it's similar to the effect rat poison has on a dying rat that's ingested it only it's not lethal after about 8 hours and the body eventually accepts it. The liver however I'm told suffers trying to deal with the toxins and if too large a dose is ingested it can contribute to recurring panic attacks ...like many things it's a matter of knowing your doses but as a medicinal drug...it needs to be supervised and like fentanyl and other designer drugs...this one in my view will not be used responsibly for the most part as in visionary spiritual experiences...

 

Im sorry but your not basing your opinion on any facts at all. The only thing you said that is true is that you can have a panic attack from taking too much, but that also has been proven in studies to need less medical treatment than even cannabis panic attacks and those panic attacks are not reoccurring. Psilocybin has no relation to rat poison, I think your confusing that with some misconceptions about the LSD manufacturing process. I suggest you do some reading and not relying on your buddies opinion on this subject, because your buddies are just plain wrong and you are wayyyy off base. The only risk to your liver is mistaking them for a poison variety.

 

I've not stated this at all..I think you're sort of going off track as to my comparison...rat poison is a chemical and mushroom problems occur from mold and mildew that is not present in the laboratory...in tribal rituals they are also supervised by a shaman ...my point is they are not just this "fun" drug that's harmless. I'm no chemist or scientist but I personally have never felt that mushroom hallucinations did anything of benefit to my physical health ...Leary talked of using them and LSD to treat psychosis...I cannot speak to those trials...currently I know they are legal in Austria....you're welcome to put your faith in them, as I will still caution the curious amongst us to avoid ingesting them. According to mycologists....they are a toxic mushroom ..the body naturally tries to reject them by vomiting...and yes...all of my posts here are opinion and experience based...my ex coworkers brother was a regular mushroom user and was hospitalized from a large dose....he never recovered...he's withdrawn and unable to cope with simple social contact..has been for decades...there's a truth for you...

 

The mushrooms containing psilocybin are known as magic mushrooms.

Psilocybin is a schedule-I controlled substance, meaning that it has a high potential for abuse and serves no legitimate medical purpose.

Individuals use psilocybin as a recreational drug. It provides feelings of euphoria and sensory distortion that are common to hallucinogenic drugs, such as LSD.

Although it is not considered an addictive substance, users can experience disturbing hallucinations, anxiety, and panic from using psilocybin.

Fast facts on psilocybin

• Psilocybin has both positive and negative physical and psychological effects.
• Psilocybin is not naturally addictive.
• The drug can trigger psychotic episodes.
• Individuals with a family history of schizophrenia or early onset mental illness face an increased risk of an adverse psychiatric reaction to psilocybin.

 

Fair enough on the mildew associated with mushrooms, but that has nothing to do with the mushroom itself and most mushrooms consumed are actually grown by people rather than picked. Really that is the same as saying marijuana is a terrible drug because some people use pesticides on it. One of the main problems with any illegal drug is that the manufacturing process is not regulated and the drug is not tested so dosage and impurities are unknown. No drug is completely harmless, but we currently have legal drugs that are considered much more harmfull than mushrooms. Not every trip has to be a voyage into the unknown, micro dosing is a popular thing these days. A dosage of about a half gram has similar effects to getting stoned and is often used by veryintelligent people to increase creativity.

Everything you said here could also be said for marijuana. Schizophrenics are not recommend either drug and marijuana can induce psychotic episodes also. Marijuana is also currently a schedule 1 controlled substance with no known medical purpose according to the federal government.

I think we would both agree that this is not true for marijuana, which should make you suspicious about your information on psilocybin. Besides PTSD, anxiety and depression have you ever heard of cluster headaches?

 

I agree with your caution with these.
All you have to do is look at all the mentally handicapped people there are and no a % is from using to many drugs, or the wrong drug.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...afest-recreational-drug-study-says/341691001/

 

yes I've heard of them..cluster headaches....and I've experimented with two varieties of magic mushrooms ..for the euphoria they can offer...I contend the body is drained and weakened from ingesting them. Recovering from them is a less than creative experience in my view....your view of them is one I used to have...that they can be used in proper dosage for creative or spiritual experiences.....my point is much like alcohol they have a price in the end to physical well being and doctors know they can trigger mental illness...I gave up alcohol the same way I gave up shrooms....for health reasons. I'm a cannabis user and have experienced no ill effects from using it in moderation..my inner traffic light of truth says...the caution light is flashing..