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For those who believe Trump colluded. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps innocence, how would you think and react?

For those who believe Trump is innocent of collusion. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps guilt, how would you think and react?
 
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For those who believe Trump colluded. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps innocence, how would you think and react?
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I'd think I was in fantasy land. That just ain't gonna happen.
 
Further said:
For those who believe Trump colluded. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps innocence, how would you think and react?

For those who believe Trump is innocent of collusion. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps guilt, how would you think and react?
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I have no issues with the results of the investigation as I believe it is conducted thoroughly and properly by qualified people - I have no interest in sending innocent people to jail and I have no issue with punishing people that used illegal means to their benefit.

I think it is pretty clear that this investigation so far has been the right thing to do - as we already have multiple people that were found guilt and convicted - whatever comes next is fine with me. I believe that no matter what the results are - Trump is in trouble - the constant drama is taking its toll on people - and just like a lot of the votes he got were for people that just wanted a change - the same will happen if he is still in office and runs for a 2nd term - many people will want a change to a more dignified administration.

The bluster is fine when it's entertainment (See the Kardashians continued popularity), but when it is proven to not help financially - as the recent market unrest and upcoming job losses in factories hurt by tariffs attest...
 
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For those who believe Trump colluded. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps innocence, how would you think and react?

For those who believe Trump is innocent of collusion. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps guilt, how would you think and react?
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Collusion, corruption or conspiracy. He's guilty already of at least 2 of those. If impeachment happens it will only end if the republican senate doesn't have enough balls to get rid of trump.
 
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For those who believe Trump colluded. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps innocence, how would you think and react?

For those who believe Trump is innocent of collusion. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps guilt, how would you think and react?
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I trust Mueller and his team. No matter what the report, if we're allowed to ever see it, says.
 
If it turns out that Hillary is behind this all, I'd fine with her getting in trouble for it. If it turns out he's behind this all, I'm fine with him getting in trouble for it.
 
julius said:
If it turns out that Hillary is behind this all, I'd fine with her getting in trouble for it. If it turns out he's behind this all, I'm fine with him getting in trouble for it.
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My issue with Trump isn't just the legal issues he is facing, but regardless of the legal issues, he will never be a president I can support with all of his lies, bullying, child like antics and radically warped ideologies. Trump will always be Trump no matter the legal findings.
 
Lanny said:
I wouldn't put it past that piece of shit.
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I find this sort of attitude completely unacceptable. It is the source of having unwarranted investigations.
Who in the hell authorized and investigation of Trump the Candidate in the beginning? On manufactured evidence if any.

If this sort of shit continues, it will result in Civil war not simple animosity over losing elections.

I will feel the same regardless of a nothing burger from Mueller or as it looks, a bunch of process convictions.
This sort of crap need to be stopped. Wrong to do it to Clinton, wrong to do it with Trump.
It was right to do with Nixon, as an actual crime had been committed, a valid reason for beginning an investigation.
 
MarAzul said:
I find this sort of attitude completely unacceptable. It is the source of having unwarranted investigations.
Who in the hell authorized and investigation of Trump the Candidate in the beginning? On manufactured evidence if any.

If this sort of shit continues, it will result in Civil war not simple animosity over losing elections.

I will feel the same regardless of a nothing burger from Mueller or as it looks, a bunch of process convictions.
This sort of crap need to be stopped. Wrong to do it to Clinton, wrong to do it with Trump.
It was right to do with Nixon, as an actual crime had been committed, a valid reason for beginning an investigation.
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Time to wake up and face the facts marzy. Your boy is crooked and corrupt. :beatinto:
 
MarAzul said:
I find this sort of attitude completely unacceptable. It is the source of having unwarranted investigations.
Who in the hell authorized and investigation of Trump the Candidate in the beginning? On manufactured evidence if any.

If this sort of shit continues, it will result in Civil war not simple animosity over losing elections.

I will feel the same regardless of a nothing burger from Mueller or as it looks, a bunch of process convictions.
This sort of crap need to be stopped. Wrong to do it to Clinton, wrong to do it with Trump.
It was right to do with Nixon, as an actual crime had been committed, a valid reason for beginning an investigation.
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Frankly, no one gives a shit what you find unacceptable.

Don't say this shit like you didn't say many negative things about Obama.

Fuck Drumpf!
 
dviss1 said:
Don't say this shit like you didn't say many negative things about Obama.
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Naw, I never said he was a piece of shit. Never said he was corrupt.
I did imply he was not too smart, and it did not help his cause in anyway to causes millions of retired people to lose their healthcare.
Actually that was stupid, but I do think he and his minion thought it would be fair.

I also said I though his birth certificate proved he was not a Natural born Citizen. A citizen by birth in Hawaii, but not a Natural born citizen.
 
MarAzul said:
Naw, I never said he was a piece of shit. Never said he was corrupt.
I did imply he was not too smart, and it did not help his cause in anyway to causes millions of retired people to lose their healthcare.
Actually that was stupid, but I do think he and his minion thought it would be fair.

I also said I though his birth certificate proved he was not a Natural born Citizen. A citizen by birth in Hawaii, but not a Natural born citizen.
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Wut?
 
@MarAzul... Racist language is protected by the first amendment right?

Caling someone a piece of shit falls well below the standard of hateful verbiage.

Frankly, your president used the same language when he said shithole countries. Basically, those countries are pieces of shit. I'll say the SAME about him if I want, and won't care what anyone thinks. It's my right.

MarAzul said:
A citizen by birth in Hawaii, but not a Natural born citizen
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What kind of bullshit is this nutfuckery? This literally doesn't make sense.
 
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For those who believe Trump colluded. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps innocence, how would you think and react?

For those who believe Trump is innocent of collusion. If Mueller can out with a report that detailing Trumps guilt, how would you think and react?
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I would think Trump had enough plausible deniability to get away with it. He is far from an innocent bystander. Trump has hidden behind other people his whole life, forcing them to take the blame for him, using them like human shields. He has never known accountability.

He should have been sent to prison for Trump University. Anyone else would have been. Not to mention all the other shit he has gotten away with.

Beyond his crimes, the language he uses is despicable. He is a terrible representative of our country. He has embarassed us at alk levels. We are a joke to our allies and enemies. Regardless of the findings of the investigation, he is a terrible president. Far from the best.
 
The Professional Fan said:
Wut?
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You see the lengths they'll go to avoid giving a black man his props?

For a black man to become president, we need to graduate from Harvard and Columbia, be the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, and be highly accomplished and intelligent. We also need to turn out the most people who ever voted in an election.

The fact that anyone could even think Obama wasn't intelligent... IMO they're only saying that because he's black.... Fuck that...
 
There are a multitude of investigations currently tasked with investigating the Clintons, some Trump supporters, corrupt present and former FBI/DOJ/DOS,IRS employees, conducted by many different agencies, IG's, SC's, and private firms.

I'll wait for the dust to settle.
 
If Trump is indicted it will be for financial fraud, not collusion. I'm okay with it if it happens. He has served his purpose.
 
tlongII said:
If Trump is indicted it will be for financial fraud, not collusion. I'm okay with it if it happens. He has served his purpose.
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Financial fraud, obstruction of justice, and witness tampering to begin with
 
The Professional Fan said:
Wut?
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The office of President is the only office where qualifying for being Natural born is required. All after the original founders, which were excepted in the Constitution.

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. "
 
MarAzul said:
The office of President is the only office where qualifying for being Natural born is required. All after the original founders, which were excepted in the Constitution.

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. "
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Are you suggesting that the only people who can be president are those who were born in states that were states before 1786?
 
MarAzul said:
Naw, I never said he was a piece of shit. Never said he was corrupt.
I did imply he was not too smart, and it did not help his cause in anyway to causes millions of retired people to lose their healthcare.
Actually that was stupid, but I do think he and his minion thought it would be fair.

I also said I though his birth certificate proved he was not a Natural born Citizen. A citizen by birth in Hawaii, but not a Natural born citizen.
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He is a natural born citizen. He was born in the State of Hawaii. He was born in 1961 two years after Hawaii became a state. He is an American Citizen, naturally born.
 
julius said:
Are you suggesting that the only people who can be president are those who were born in states that were states before 1786?
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Is this what you understand from the paste? It was copied straight from a legitimate copy of the Constitution?
Perhaps you want to ask a question that needs and answer.
 
MarAzul said:
The office of President is the only office where qualifying for being Natural born is required. All after the original founders, which were excepted in the Constitution.

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. "
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I think I'm going to start claiming that the founders didn't mean:

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

but instead meant:

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President;

So nobody alive today is eligible.

barfo
 
MarAzul said:
Is this what you understand from the paste? It was copied straight from a legitimate copy of the Constitution?
Perhaps you want to ask a question that needs and answer.
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It was a good question. What is your reasoning then if that is not the case?
 
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