Politics What if it turns out the other side was right?

the collateral damage is delicious. by and large, i find most politicians creepy in their desire for power and the lengths they are willing to go to to retain it. you and master Hobbessrable have it mostly right.
there is certainly entertainment value if you can get past the sadness.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-presidency-must-end-apos-085548049.html

 

Real question:

What reasons do conservatives give a person like me to vote for them?

Truly.

They're against police reform.
They're against healthcare for all.
They're against prison reform.
They're against firearm safety laws.
They're against minimum wage.
They're against tuition free higher learning.
They're against food stamps.

And they're pro war. Pro oil.
Anti climate change.

And yes.

Conservatives are the ones mad at Kaepernick.
Conservatives are the ones waving the stars and bars.
Conservatives fought for Jim Crow and against civil rights.
Conservatives want to force women to have the babies of their rapists (I challenge any of you to prove this wrong).
Conservatives (less and less of y'all) support an obvious racist in the white house.

Why in HELL should I ever vote for a conservative? Please enlighten me.

 

Those two things are the same...

 

yup, the Brits see the entertainment value too. i wish our mess wasn't what it is. it will likely be as the benghazi hearings, only tit for tat, dem's investigating the administration to no end or conclusions. doubt we see 4 more years after 2020. we need a moderate from either party, someone to breach the divide. we will only likely get what we deserve instead.

 

No, the dude that responds that way is a fucking idiot and we don't need to worry about what he thinks. Did you even click the link I gave you above? To say Obama is more embarrassing completely flies in the face of reality:



This really was the only pic I needed to post...


Our president let Russian hookers give him a golden shower and other countries are laughing:


They laughed at him at the U.N.:



So when people say that, it's utter bullshit and what they say doesn't matter. It's about WHY they said it.

 

Did you pay much attention to the Republican Senate obstruction during Obama's presidency?

Nancy Pelosi passed 450+ GOOD bills that never saw the light of day in the Senate due to filibuster or threat of the filibuster.

Now my problem with Obama was that he was too weak to SLAP these repubs with his balls and do the nuclear option, get rid of the filibuster and pass what the fuck he wanted to. He capitulated way to much for my taste.

We got Jackie Robinson instead of Satchel Paige..

 

Which "side" is "the other side" to you?

I'm on America's side, and against those who assault The Constitution and Freedom.

I already know most of the answers to the witch hunt, and expect no surprise evidence of any credible kind incriminating The President of anything illegal.

I have personally seen extensive evidence that the Clinton Trio are criminals, conspired to commit treason for profit, and were illegally protected by Obama and most of his Cabinet and many of their underlings. I've seen a rigged Dem primary, voter fraud across all of Broward County which is run by the same Dem who directed the rigged Dem primary and also "arranged" the Parkland murders for political goals.

Nothing could ever be done by anyone, good or bad, that would cause me to ever again vote for a Democrat or any bill proposed by them. The DNC is nothing more than a front for the Deep State and a pawn for George Soros.

 

Lets say shit did happen and there was some collusion. Well the FBI and CIA are corrupt and always have been. We saw Hillary get away with the emails so it's possible here too. It's all fuckery to me at this point

 

Obama's Birth Certificate, if any exists, has never been presented.

A "Certificate of Live Birth" (not the same thing) was presented after 6 years (it just suddenly appeared out of nowhere) and it was immediately noted to have been created on a modern word processor which did not exist when Obama was born, with a font that was never available on typewriters.

The Fake Media ignored it and buried it, and the sheeple plodded along.

 

I will give you one more hint.

Prior to Obama, the last American President that was once a British subject, was Andrew Jackson. Jackson was a British subject from his birth in 1767 in the British territory of South Carolina. Of course his Presidency was legal since the Constitution exempted him and his generation of the requirement to be a Natural born citizen.

 

Had nothing to do with race. But I'm never embarrassed by the actions of others. That's on them.

I voted for him, thought he'd kick some ass but he kissed it instead. That's why he was "revered" by them, although I'd call it something else.

Admittedly, I still voted for him the second time as I hoped he'd change after he didn't need to run anymore.

 

Official Noaa chart 18523

Oh darn! I didn't do the snap right. Just to East of Jim Crow Pt, is Jim Crow Creek.
All three places are named in honor of an early Oregon resident, Jim Crow.

 

Working through the old record crates alphabetically?

 

You're painting with a pretty broad brush there. I've never met anyone who held all those views.

Nor have I met anyone who was "against" any of those things. They just don't want to have their wages garnished by the government so other people can get those things "free".

Nobody is pro-war. Strong on National Defense, yes.

Nobody is pro-oil. The second you bring me a direct-solar-powered full-size SUV that can duplicate all performance stats of a gas-powered one at the same price and I'm in.

Anti climate change? Not me, I'm Pro climate change in a big way.

Climate change is a natural, constantly-occurring action that all life on Earth depends on.

If it ever stops changing we're dead.

 

Yes, the Brits did fashion their law this way, including the right of decent. That is children of a citizen may happen to be born abroad but they are British Citizen non the less. In Natural law it is defined a little more tightly..

As such, George Romney was born in Mexico, but he was deemed to be a Natural Born Citizen because his parents were US citizens,
completely consistent with Natural Law. Same with John McCain being born in Panama.

Where as Obama's birth certificate clearly shows his father is Kenyan. In 1961 Kenya was a British Territory, and therefore a he was a Kenyan, a British Citizen by right of decent, consist with both British and Natural Law. By virtue of the 14th amendment he is also a US citizen, but not Natural Born Citizen.

Natural Law page 212 Book 1

"Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority,
they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country,
of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens,
those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this,
in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society,
reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children;
and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion,
they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country,
it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner,
it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country."

 

No, I'm pretty sure 2 terms is the limit.