Re: The 'Point-Forward' Charles Barkley brought up an interesting point last night after the Pistons-Cavs game. He asked why is LeBron trying to help his teammates finish when he's the one that should be getting the ball and finishing. It's good that he gets his teammates involved, but considering the importance of the game he should realize when it is time to take over, being the best player on his team. Tracy McGrady is a 'Point-Forward', too. Rafer Alston is a mediocre PG but he is all they have that can run an offense at the PG spot. JVG likes to put the ball in TMac's hands and seeing if he can set up the offense. I don't like it. TMac needs to go back to his Orlando form, being the scoring champ, and just finishing plays. Because of him playing the 'Point-Forward', there are times where can't be as aggressive offensively as he used to be. But in LA, Lamar Odom plays the 'Point-Forward' because Smush Parker pretty much straight up sucks at the PG spot. Odom isn't the best player on the Lakers, Kobe is. So that's where being a 'Point-Forward' is okay, if you're not the most talented offensive player on your team. That's my only rant about it. Some teams' best players are not taking control of the situation when they need to be because they're distributing the ball to teammates that should be getting the ball to their best players.What do you guys think of this?
Re: The 'Point-Forward' I think a good "Point-Forward" is a great asset to have on a basketball team. They have good handling, passing and can also use there large (larger than a normal PG) body to get to the basket and rebound.Magic Johnson is ovbiously the best Point-Forward of all-time.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' Magic Johnson is not a point forward. His main position is point guard. He rarely played forward. LeBron, T-Mac, Odom are point-forwards because the usually play forward.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' IMO, LeBron is a PG at heart, (and like ive always said) he becomes a very good playmaker in clutch. He got a 3-point shooter wide open for a 3. I dont question his decision at all.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' LeBron and T-Mac should both be scorers and have the load of playmaking lifted off their shoulders. But due to the situations they are in, they need to be the point forwards, and both are damn good at it too.If your team needs a playmaker, a point forward can be very effective due to size and ability to see over defense and cause matchup nightmares. But if that same player is the best scorer on the team, they simply shouldn't be forced to be in that position.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' Antoine Walker is a point-forward also. There is a reason he comes off of the bench.If forwards have good court vision, then there is no reason that a team should not have a point-foward. Tayshaun Prince plays some point-forward for us.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' I think having one of these types of players can be great for a team (see Scottie Pippen), but it can also wreck a players' effectiveness. I think one of the main reasons Antoine Walker "is what he is" is that Jim O'Brien and Rick Pitino both made him a point forward. Antoine had the ball handling ability and floor vision to be effective with this, but hey had him running the offense and handling the ball from the top of the key too often, and they let him fall in love with the 3-point shot. I wish Antoine would have had a coach like Jerry Sloan from the get-go, I think he would have been MUCH better and obviously MUCH more respected. People forget how Antoine was a good post player, but poor coaching screwed Antoine's career over.Now that the Antoine Walker story is off my chest, I agree with Nitro about T-Mac and LeBron. Charles and Kenny always say "They are great players, but they need to finish plays in crunch time... not start them." I agree with that 100%, guys with that kind of ability should be on the receiving end. Both of them need another guy on their side that can make the right decisions. They don't have to be Jason Kidd-like playmakers, but smart players who they can trust with the basketball. LeBron can't trust Daniel Gibson right now, and Larry Hughes is not a point guard. T-Mac is the only real playmaker in Houston, and Rafer Alston is one of the worst decision makers in the league.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' This reminds me of whenever Doug Collins calls a game for TNT. He allways talks about his time in Detroit and how he let Grant Hill run the point.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' Another example is Andre Iguodala. He even has a great point guard along side him. He gets the scoring done also. Some people say that he should play like a point guard beacuse we have Miller. But I see this as an advantaged because on the fast break we have two guys who can make plays even if the get doubled.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' When Lebron James was drafted, one of the things that was most hyped about him was his passing ability. All of his life he's been told he's going to be the best passing forward to ever play, and he is an exceptionally good passer. He's playing his game and good for him, he shouldn't quit doing his thing because someone else wants him to.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wolverine30 @ May 22 2007, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Magic Johnson is not a point forward. His main position is point guard. He rarely played forward. LeBron, T-Mac, Odom are point-forwards because the usually play forward.</div>Are you kidding me? Magic could play EVERY position. How about the game Kareem was out in the finals against the 76ers in 1980. Magic was a rookie and had played guard all year. Magic stepped up playing Center and winning MVP honors to clinch the championship. Magic was that amazing.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 1 2007, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>McGrady isn't.and please nitro don't put anymore B.S here.</div>You just bumped a post from 2 months ago to continue an argument about T-mac being a point forward.
Re: The 'Point-Forward' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Jul 1 2007, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You just bumped a post from 2 months ago to continue an argument about T-mac being a point forward. </div>It's because Nitro got in his head.
