The Official CJ McCollum Thread

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  1. illmatic99

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    Has everyone given up on CJ working here? He's got so much skill, but I feel like he's used wrong. I don't see the point of some of these trade proposals where people are just dumping him. He's not that bad.
     
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    :dunno: We have 2 guards who struggle on defense and who need the ball in their hands to be effective. I think people are begining to question whether Dame and CJ actually compliment each other that well on the court. If CJ could play defense, or was a better playmaker, or if he was effective playing off the ball, it would make a world of difference. As is, I'm not sure you can say Stotts is using him wrong, as there is no *right* way to use him alongside Dame. He is what he is - a ball dominant scorer of so-so efficiency.
     
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    If McCollum wasn’t making the money he’s making, he would be an amazing sixth man. But since he’s getting paid more than Anthony Davis, he should be making a bigger impact than the occasional outburst, and the consistent inconsistency.
     
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    Amen! Find a more versatile player to start alongside Dame, and minimize the time CJ and Dame are on the court together. Olshey wouldn't do it in a million years, but the Blazers would be a stronger *team*.
     
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    Easy fix, fire Neil.
     
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    It's ridiculous that people in here shit on CJ all the time. The problem with our team is at FORWARD! It's so obvious that it boggles my mind to think people believe the answer to our problems is getting rid of CJ. What is wrong with you people???
     
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    If getting rid of CJ could garner an upgrade at forward, doesn't that address both concerns?
     
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    No it does not. Who on this team plays 2 guard as effectively as CJ?
     
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    Good question, although the way Curry has been playing lately, an argument can be made for him. Regardless, this question is why the ideas that have been bandied about lately have included both an upgrade at forward AND an able replacement at SG, usually someone bigger than CJ who is better defensively and more apt to play off the ball rather than seek to create for himself.
     
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    Well there is the problem. CJ is shooting inefficiently, is not a good passer/rebounder/defender, and has a huge contract.

    So I ask you what of that is not replaceable? He can create his own offense, sure. Does that outweigh all the negative stuff though?
     
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    The other problem is that it is very difficult to upgrade the forward problem and keep CJ. Of course if there is a move available to do so then you try that first, it's just been 3 seasons without that so for it to happen now is unlikely.
     
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    I would take a downgrade at shooting guard if it meant upgrading somewhere else, specifically forward. His inefficient 18 shots a game, no other consistent contribution, and huge contract would not be missed.
     
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    I've found that emitting negative energy is detrimental.

    But the answer to this isn't CJ or Stotts.

    It's Olshey.
     
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    Ya I don't see the reasoning behind plugging up one hole while creating another.
     
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    I'm all for plugging all the holes. What out there could accomplish that?
     
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    Certainly not with salary dumps or Otto Porter. I down for trading CJ. Nothing proposed seems all that enticing to me.

    If we can get something like a trade I proposed earlier in the forum (CJ + Salary fillers for Aaron Gordon and Fournier), it would be ideal. unfortunately, such a deal is not really plausible.
     
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    Would you trade a 1st Round Pick in the 20s to open up the Full MLE, BAE, and Sign-&-Trade possibilities next year?
     
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    So its not either of those guys fault at all?
     
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    You know Neil's track record with the draft.

    You know Neil's track record with FAs.

    Neither is all that great, but one of them is clearly worse.
     
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    So we shouldn't make any changes then since the perfect trade isn't plausible?
     
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