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  1. BonesJones

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    Or used to straight up dump Turner next off-season if there's someone we really want for the Full MLE (or through sign-and-trade) that wants to come here.

    Turner, Leonard, and Biggie makes absolutely 0 sense. Batum isn't gonna take this team to the next level like an Otto Porter Jr. would, we likely don't open up the full MLE by saving $5M next year unless we let Aminu walk, but that defeats the purpose since we'd have to try to fill his spot instead of upgrading elsewhere.
     
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    It looks like that pick could be as high as 6th (lottery pending) or as low as 17th. The Blazers right now would have the 21st pick. Having the assets to get up into the lottery while making the playoffs and adding another big time player to the roster is worth it in my opinion.
     
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    I don't see Charlotte offering an unprotected pick though. Jordan isn't a Billy King and a rebuilding team isn't likely to give up a high lottery pick and Kupchak is also sharper than that. I know you like to play forum GM, would you do an unprotected pick? That's a huge assumption that would be available. For this scenario I would lean towards that not being an option.
     
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    Blake is just the kind of big this team needs. I've been saying this for a couple years now. Unfortunately, I doubt Neil would go for him because he has such a hard on for Collins.
     
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    Well first off, @Scalma's question was how many picks would they have to give us to take Batum so I was answering that I would be fine with their pick this year as the only one if they took Turner back plus filler. You are coming in asking a completely different question.

    If I'm the Blazers I would still accept the pick with top-5 protection this season. Like I said previously the Hornets aren't going to finish worse than 6th or better than 17th. With protecting it top-5 they keep it if they get lucky or don't if they stay where they are at. I think that is more than fair for taking on as much money for Batum as that would end up being.

    If I'm the Hornets (or frankly any team that isn't a contender) I would almost never attach a pick just to dump salary. The only exception to that would be if my boss told me I had to or if doing so was because I had another move lined up that I needed the money for. These types of trades happen all the time though so obviously some teams are in fact willing to salary dump with picks (just not unprotected anymore). Those are the teams I'd be constantly trying to take advantage of and if the Hornets are desperate to move Batum they almost certainly have to give up something good to do so.
     
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    So then you agree with me that Charlotte wouldn't offer a pick with little or no protection. Kupchak and Jordan aren't that easily duped. We would need to find the next Billy King to buy into something like that.
     
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    I just said that it depends on how desperate they are to dump Batum. Without attaching something like their 1st round pick or maybe Bridges and Monk (perhaps all 3), I don't really see a scenario where they can get rid of Batum.

    Over the summer in a Detroit forum I was the Hornets in their mock off season. I didn't really see a path to contention with the current roster so I blew it up and traded Kemba. I tried very hard to get rid of Batum without attaching assets but couldn't find a deal although I thought once I was close but then the guy disappeared. So I ended up being fine stuck with him and actually was willing to take on other bad contracts for draft picks too. I ended up with Mo Bamba, Collin Sexton, and Zach Collins to start my rebuild around. I know it's not real life but I think the Hornets are being dumb by not really being bad but also not being good enough to make the playoffs most years in the East so who knows what they'd do to shed salary.
     
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    Per Sean Deveney: The Hornets are offering Kaminsky as incentive to any team willing to take on Batum or Bismark. Given that Kaminsky has fallen out of their rotation and is headed into RFA, that's worth about as much as a 3-legged, 1-eyed, race horse. I can't see anybody biting on that.
     
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    No thanks on Blake. Just like Love he can't stay healthy. 30+ million a year for someone who has not played more then 67 games in a season over the last 6 years. Need a big you can rely on.
     
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    Sporting News is reporting the Washington's Markief Morris is out at least 6 weeks with neck and back issues. Will that lower his price, or just his worth?
     
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    He's probably not going to be traded now. He could be a potential buyout candidate though.

    LMAO, as if turning down 4 1st round picks to take Kaminsky wasn't bad enough. Now they think he still has value?
     
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    Maybe they'll need Meyers to fill the gap?
     
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    ok, I was just responding to you because of your response to me.
     
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    It will lower his value, but all depends on what the long term plans are for him with the Wiz as he is an expiring contract and by dealing him they would have to take back some sort of contract that matches. Might end up having to take a small expiring and a small extended contract so they may just let him walk or look to re-sign him. I always liked the Morris brothers as they play solid and tough.
     
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    He can score though!
     
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    Id rather do that same thing for Harrison barnes if I had to choose between the two deals. They both work.
     
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    He actually manages to be a worse contract than Parker. That's impressive.
     
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