Assuming Portland takes Greg Oden in the 1st pick in the draft, this is their young core. Jarrett JackBrandon RoyTravis OutlawLaMarcus AldridgeGreg OdenMartell WebsterSergio Rodriguez :no1: That's not right.
There are a lot teams with good young cores.. but the two teams that compare with Portland areOrlando:Jameer NelsonDwight HowardTrevor ArizaJJ RedickMilicicToronto:Chris BoshTJ FordAndrea BargnaniJoey GrahamJose CalderonThen there are a couple teams that have an interesting young core but a couple years from producing, and becoming playoff team.
Luol DengBen GordonKirk HinrichAndres NocioniChris DuhonTyrus ThomasThabo Sefolosha#9 pick in this draftI think Chicago has the best young core right now, especially considering how well they all play on the defensive end as well as the offensive end. Portland's young core is 2nd, and they have an unbelievable looking future, but Chicago is #1 for now.
Erm... anyone forgetting the Celtics?Rajon RondoAl JeffersonRyan GomesGerald GreenLeon PoweKendrick PerkinsDelonte WestEDIT: Not the best, but one of them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AiRuPtHeRe? @ May 26 2007, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Erm... anyone forgetting the Celtics?Rajon RondoAl JeffersonRyan GomesGerald GreenLeon PoweKendrick PerkinsDelonte WestEDIT: Not the best, but one of them.</div>One of the best, but we don't have what Chicago or Portland does. Besides, most of our young players are still very raw and very unproven.
Does Portland have the best young roster? Probably. LaMarcus Aldridge has proven me wrong, hopefully he bounces back from his heart problem. I would trade Andrew Bogut straight up for him, he impressed me a lot. If the Blazers pick Oden, man, everyone knows what Oden could do. Brandon Roy is so good all-around, thats what I like about him. I don't particularly care for Travis Outlaw or Martell Webster. Outlaw to me is more of an althete than a basketball player but his size and speed can make for some big plays. Martell Webster to me will never live up to being the 6th pick. Until he develops a handle and more confidence on offense, he's nothing more than a 2nd or 3rd option on offense. The Bulls, Bobcats and Celtics all have a ton of nice players as well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TJFord11 @ May 26 2007, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There are a lot teams with good young cores.. but the two teams that compare with Portland areOrlando:Jameer NelsonDwight HowardTrevor ArizaJJ RedickMilicicToronto:Chris BoshTJ FordAndrea BargnaniJoey GrahamJose CalderonThen there are a couple teams that have an interesting young core but a couple years from producing, and becoming playoff team.</div>Magic??? Dwight that's all they really have. JJ is so overrated all he can do is shoot 3 like Korver.Raps Bosh/TJ a great duo for years, but still not best young core.It is easy Bulls, and then Blazers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TJFord11 @ May 26 2007, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There are a lot teams with good young cores.. but the two teams that compare with Portland areOrlando:Jameer NelsonDwight HowardTrevor ArizaJJ RedickMilicic</div> Outside of Dwight Howard, nobody on that list is all that impressive. Trevor Ariza is a nice player, but he's not consistant enough. Jameer Nelson should not be a starting PG, Milicic has done little to develop his game, I like JJ Redick a lot but he's nothing really special.
Jameer Nelson had a really off season last year, but he is a starter in this league. I dont know what convinces you he isnt. Hes tough, a solid defender, can score and can become a playmaker. Milicic is still young and didnt get the PT he shouldve gotten with Brian Hill. Hes a excellent shot blocker and has very nice moves around the basket...just not much plaing time. Trevor Ariza might be the type that moves up about 4ppg every year and before we know it hes averaging 17ppg. Not saying that will happen, but hes has the potential. Saying all that, they dont have anything on Chicago. The Bulls have so much young talent its not even funny. They easily win.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 26 2007, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jameer Nelson had a really off season last year, but he is a starter in this league. I dont know what convinces you he isnt. Hes tough, a solid defender, can score and can become a playmaker.</div> Jameer Nelson was not a playmaker at St. Joseph's and has not been a playmaker in Orlando, I feel confident that he will never be a playmaker. That was his flaw coming into the NBA, and I think playmaking is just something thats just there more than something that can be developed. Jameer Nelson is a good player, but at PG I want a guy who can find the open man and not make mistakes. It's holding the Magic back.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 26 2007, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Milicic is still young and didnt get the PT he shouldve gotten with Brian Hill.</div> He didn't get minutes for a reason, outside of shotblocking he doesn't bring much to the table.
He can become a playmaker. Believe, my second team is Orlando and Ive watched him more than you. The only thing keeping him back from being a playmaker are stupid mistakes..which you see less and less through the seasons. And Nelson does usually find the open man, but hes a scoring PG more than anything. With some better coaching he can become a good PG in the NBA...and he already is a solid PG.If you watched in game with Milicic in it with some PT, he could average something around 12ppg. But he doesn't get PT for some stupid ass reason. Brian Hill is gone, and you will see next season that Darko is a very capable player and has very nice moves around the basket. No to mention hes 21, but thats around the age most players get drafted. Hes going to be a very nice player at the least in the NBA.
Once again, I just think your wrong. Jameer Nelson is what he is, he's simply not a playmaker, and I don't think any head coach is going wave his wand and turn him into a playmaker. Also, I'm tired of you using the 'I watch them more than you do' statement, you don't know who I watch or how many games I watch.
Well your statement about Milicic only bringing shot blocking tells me you dont watch much Magic.You can develop into a play maker if you have the right skills. Jameer Nelson has very good court awareness because he usually does get the open man the ball. But to be a playmaker, you have to cut down on mistakes, being a better reader of the defense, and simply having chemistry with the team. Nelson can develop into a playmaker with the right coaches.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 26 2007, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well your statement about Milicic only bringing shot blocking tells me you dont watch much Magic.</div> You honestly can't tell me that Darko Milicic brings much else besides shotblocking. Thats why he doesn't get the minutes. He's simply not good enough and not consistant enough yet. Brian Hill had no reason to hold Milicic back this season. Jameer Nelson is never going to be a playmaker because he doesn't have great vision. Considering he has yet to be a playmaker the last 7 seasons he's been a basketball player, I'm confident on my position.
Milicic also has a decent 15 ft jumpshot that he can knock down consistently, I saw him use it in the Detroit-Orlando playoff series. It's not like he does not have any abilities on the offensive end.
I know he can hit the jumper and can use his athletic ability in the post sometimes, but add it all up, he doesn't bring much to the table at this point in his career.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ May 26 2007, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Magic??? Dwight that's all they really have. JJ is so overrated all he can do is shoot 3 like Korver.Raps Bosh/TJ a great duo for years, but still not best young core.It is easy Bulls, and then Blazers.</div>Yes Magic, they did make the playoffs with that core...and is that a bad thing? He was drafted to spred the floor for Howard.
I still think Magic shouldve drafted Rodney Carney. Hes athletic, he isnt as good shooter as JJ, but he was one of the better shooters in the draft. Not to mention hes a solid defender. Oh how I wish....
Stupid basketball fans are always going to bash JJ Redick, mind you, hardly any of them have ever sat down and watched Redick play, most people didn't know Redick was a very good defender in college who worked like hell on defense, don't know how much more work Redick put into his midrange game, don't know that he lives off constantly moving/ball fakes. They are always gonig to bash him for being a white shooter who isn't quick enough, fast enough, or tall enough (even though he's 6'5").
