Trade Ideas Thread

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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Hypothetically if we did the Lee trade, why not roll with a 2nd unit of Curry, Lee, Turner, Layman, and Collins?
     
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    Hypothetically, that would help to cover Curry's defensive deficiencies.

    Rather start Jake and play Moe at the backup 4, but Stotts would disagree.
     
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    Your premise about Stauskas was that he wasn’t even going to be in the rotation and that Stotts doesn’t play 10 man rotations or whatever else you were throwing around. But keep patting yourself on the back like anyone actually gives a fuck.

    And knowing Stotts Stauskas will be back in the rotation soon enough anyway. Only difference is I’m not gonna spend my days letting everyone know “I called it.”
     
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    I would much rather look elsewhere than get Lee at this stage as it would leave us very unbalanced. It would be an upgrade at guard but not enough to take on Lee's extra year. I actually think Leonard (if he keeps playing reasonably well) would be an easier contract to move next off season or before the trade deadline next year as bigs are typically a hotter commodity.
     
  5. BonesJones

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    Stotts hadn't played legit 10-man rotations until this year, and it's a mistake.

    Stauskas isnt in the rotation now because he hasn't deserved to be in the rotation all season. You told me he was gonna be better than this. Glad I never believed you.
     
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    It would open up a roster spot to add a big though. I guess it depends on what's out there in the buyout market.
     
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    He actually did but you like to ignore facts when they go against your opinions.
     
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    I guess I am thinking more long term rather than just a quick fix that will also cost over 12mil next year. If we're moving Leonard then look for an expiring deal and guards are usually more talented than bigs that might become available off waivers as well as the G league. It just seems more sideways than improving the team enough.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Actually, it was the other way around, I gave you multiple box scores from early on in the season.

    Nice try bud.
     
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    Well I am on record as saying if Turner or Leonard could be traded for an expiring deal you do it no matter who the player coming back is so I agree with you there.
     
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    Ok “bud”

    And these are games where ten guys, and only ten guys played.
     
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    I bet if I cared enough (I already care more than I should) I could go back another year and see the same pattern. Stotts has big rotations early in the season until he shorterns it sometime after the new year. The only difference this season is the use of two separate “units”
     
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    Funnily enough, you wouldnt post the games only 9 guys played, and my point at the time was 9 guys regularly played and youd have a 10th guy here and there playing inconsistent spot minutes. Nothing here disproves that point.
     
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    Only issue is, it's unlikely we will just get expiring contracts back without throwing in some filler and still would likely end up with a smaller bad contract and that would depend on how much and for how long. I'm patient enough to see what we could do with those contracts in the off season and worst case scenario have them come completely off the books after next season and we can reload. I just want to make sure we don't hamstring us further beyond the following off season and why I was against any deal for Parsons unless it's a min contract if he is put on waivers (safe to say he will clear waivers). I would only look to take back a longer term contract for a player that we would want to be a part of the team going forward.
     
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    Parsons expires at the same time as Leonard and Turner.
     
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    Ah, that's right, but he's at 25 mil that last year and next to impossible to move (ask Memphis) where as Turner and Leonard are much more realistic. I would only be interested in Parsons off waivers and then gone next year. Turner/ Leonard > Parsons at this stage imo.
     
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    Are you taking the discussion from the "Chandler Parson's?" thread into this one that we discussed yesterday? I said I would take Parsons in that thread for Turner, Leonard, Swanigan if they also added a future 2nd round pick. I'd do this to save money this year and next year and to open up two roster spots. You pointed out that Memphis wouldn't go for that and I agreed noting that I was strictly talking about what it would take from Portland's perspective to consider it. Now here you are today rehashing it for some reason?

    I mentioned Parsons in this thread in response to rather having him than Batum if we made the theoretical trade with Charlotte. I would try and trade Batum to Memphis for Parsons.
     
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    Sorry, it wasn't my intention to bother you. Just having a discussion.
     
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    You're not bothering me, I was just curious where it came from today.
     
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    So did he play with ten guys or not? You said he didn’t. Now you’ve pivoted, well only from time to time. Btw, those were just games I clicked. I’m not about to do a deep dive on the first half of last season to prove some kind of ultimately meaningless point, but congrats on getting the last word in as usual.
     
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