Trade Ideas Thread

Where was that said, insinuated or even remotely suggested?

 

The TPE can't be used to sign a free agent.

 

You didn't look?

 

If you think Malcolm Brogdon is considered in the same class as CJ then there is no reason for us to further this discussion.

I would make a bet not one GM in the league would put them in the same class as what caliber player they are.

CJ is having a down year right now... Malcolm Brogdon? Come on

 

If Nurk is wanted by the Pelicans then fine, but I completely disagree with the AD/Nurk pairing being a poor one. I think they'd be great together as AD can easily play the 4. In fact if we are going to beat the Warrior and Rocket type teams I think that would be the best way to go about it.

 

agreed

 

The theory that CJ is having a down year has been debunked. His numbers are actually slightly better than last year. I don't understand why you are being so close minded. Looking at the numbers a little further it might not even be close.

CJ plays 5 minutes more per game and scores 5.3 points per game more but takes 6.6 more shots per game to get his numbers. Brogdon has CJ by over 10% on 3 point shots. 2 point shots Brogdon is over 4% better than CJ. Straight FG% Brogdon has a 6% advantage. eFG% Brogdon is 8% higher. TS% Brogdon is shooting a really phenomenal 62.5%, which is 8.9% higher than CJ.

So I ask you, if Brogdon absolutely destroys CJ at the one thing (shooting) that CJ is supposed to excel at, where does CJ make up the difference to be better?

Rebounding? Nope, Brogdon is better.

Passing? Nope, Brogdon is better.

Defense? Nope Brogdon is better.

Size? Nope, Brogdon is taller and weighs more.

Even CJ's best year doesn't compare to Brogdon this year. It's not even close. So I ask you what part of this makes it not worthy of discussion if I think Brogdon is better?

 

Clippers sign Kawhi, resign Harris, then at the deadline, trade Harris, SGA, and 2/3 future 1sts for AD. We couldn't compete with that package.

 

Yeah, but the Pelicans would be risking a lot waiting until the trade deadline next year to trade him. One of the players involved could get hurt. The less time AD is with a team the less likely he would stay too. I'd be surprised if AD isn't traded this summer the moment he turns down the Super Max.

 

What is CJ's career 3pt %?

answer me this, do yout hink GM's look at brogdon the same way they look at CJ?

If they switched places and CJ was on the bucks, you dont think theyd be a better team?
What if our starting line up was Dame, brogdon, mo, aminu and nurk?

Comparing stats is one way to comapre players, the other is the eye test. what does CJ do to the opposing defense compared to Brogdan? defensesprepare for CJ, they dont for brogdan.

Put CJ on a team with middleton and the greak freak and lets see what happens

 

Heck. look at what Boston has to offer. Several young quality players on cheap contracts and draft picks galore. They can also add Hayward in that mix if they decide to go that direction. At minimum, I doubt the Pelicans will listen without McCollum and Nurk in the equation.

 

CJ will get less touches, try to do even more when he does get them and stall the offense, while playing awful defense...

People use the "eye-test" when they dont have anything else to fall back on. If your eye-test is correctly calibrated, then stats should back it up.

 

Do you think we are as good as we are right now if we had Brogdon instead of CJ?

Lets see what Brogdon can do as a number 2 option on a team witht he defense keyed in on him

I seriously cant figure this board out sometimes, the overreaction is mind boggling.

If we called the bucks and said " hi we'd like to trade CJ for Brogdan" what do you think they would say?

 

well stats doesn't define the whole picture either when only one 1/2 season is used. Here is a true comparison.

https://www.basketball-reference.co...llum&y2=2019&player_id2=mccolcj01&idx=players

 

Stats also at one time said jump shooting teams can win championships.
If you watched the Warriors the first year they won the ship...I think we could all agree we knew who was winning that year, no?

 

CJ's career 3pt% is 39.8%, Brogdon's is 40.6%.

Why can't you answer the question as to what CJ does that makes him better than Brogdon? You are acting like Coach Stotts right now when he was asked what CJ does to impact the game when he's not scoring.

 

What of the comparison you just posted show CJ is better? Pretty much every important metric favors Brogdon.

 

Thanks. I needed proof that Brogdon was the better player.

 

Here is my answer:
okay sure, I will give it to you that Brogdan has good stats, congratulations. I guess they make him a more efficient player than CJ.
My point is that they have different roles on their teams and that effects stats.
Brogdan doesnt have near the responsibility that CJ has

Now answer my questions

 

CJ is playing terrible this year. He's only averaging 20 points because he takes 18 shots. Put Brogdon in there and we are instantly a better and more efficient team. Besides, Brogdon would be the #3 option behind Dame and Nurk, as CJ should be too.

I don't know if the Bucks would want CJ given his contract.