Which player is the worst player that consistently starts in the NBA.I'm gonna have to go with either Smush Parker, Adam Morrison, Jason Collins, Mark Blount or Eric Snow. Just terrible players overall.
I don't think Adam Morrison starts, it's Matt Carroll who happens to be worse than Morrison. Also, Charlotte has Primov Brezec as their starting center, he's pretty terrible.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Which player is the worst player that consistently starts in the NBA.I'm gonna have to go with either Smush Parker, Adam Morrison, Jason Collins, Mark Blount or Eric Snow. Just terrible players overall.</div>Smush was demoted from his starting position, Morrison never consistently started and Eric Snow was also demoted with Hughes starting at pg. Also, he's not a terrible player. And I think 808 never watched a Cats game to say Carroll is horrible as well. The guy actually won them some games the past season with his scoring bursts. How about watching the games people?
- Adam Morrison does not start, Matt Carroll did, as did Walter Herrmann at the end of the year.- Eric Snow hasn't started for a while, Larry Hughes and Sasha Pavlovic start for Cleveland in the backcourt.I'd say it's Ime Udoka, although I like him. He's a solid defender and a hard worker.
Jason Collins is actually a good player. The normal stats don't tell the story. He's a really good defender; his defensive presence makes a 7 points per 48 minute difference for his team.I'm going to go with Adam Morrison and Toine Walker, they both damage their team severely.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kobebryant_24OWNEDME @ May 27 2007, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm going to go with Adam Morrison and Toine Walker, they both damage their team severely.</div>And both come off the bench.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kobebryant_24OWNEDME @ May 27 2007, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jason Collins is actually a good player. The normal stats don't tell the story. He's a really good defender; his defensive presence makes a 7 points per 48 minute difference for his team.I'm going to go with Adam Morrison and Toine Walker, they both damage their team severely.</div>You guys that use stats to try to prove everything crack me up. Sure if he played 48 minutes, that's the kind of impact he would have, but the fact is he doesn't play 48 minutes, so it doesn't matter what would happen if Collins did play 48 minutes a game. He's pretty much a liability on offense, does nothing to help the offense, and is really pretty useless on the court for half the game. He's not a good offensive rebounder, not a strong rebounder. Besides defense, there is really nothing Jason Collins brings to the table. That is why he only plays 21 minutes a game, and why he is one of the worst starters in the league.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 27 2007, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>- Adam Morrison does not start, Matt Carroll did, as did Walter Herrmann at the end of the year.- Eric Snow hasn't started for a while, Larry Hughes and Sasha Pavlovic start for Cleveland in the backcourt.I'd say it's Ime Udoka, although I like him. He's a solid defender and a hard worker.</div>Exactly. They took him out awhile ago and stuck Gibson in. Then they tried the Sasha at two and sticking Hughes at point and they have stuck with that. So enough with the Snow bashing.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 27 2007, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And both come off the bench.</div>ah, I just assumed they started based on the minutes they played. Personally I don't think who starts the game means as much as who plays the most minutes, because people like Havlicek used to average 35 minutes off the bench while collins averages 21 minutes starting.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You guys that use stats to try to prove everything crack me up. Sure if he played 48 minutes, that's the kind of impact he would have, but the fact is he doesn't play 48 minutes, so it doesn't matter what would happen if Collins did play 48 minutes a game. He's pretty much a liability on offense, does nothing to help the offense, and is really pretty useless on the court for half the game. He's not a good offensive rebounder, not a strong rebounder. Besides defense, there is really nothing Jason Collins brings to the table. That is why he only plays 21 minutes a game, and why he is one of the worst starters in the league.</div>The point is that he's a net positive for the team, as they do significantly better with him on the court than off, something that not every starter can say. People sing Mikki Moore's praises, the guy who plays center most of the time, but he makes much less of an impact on the game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ May 27 2007, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Smush was demoted from his starting position, Morrison never consistently started and Eric Snow was also demoted with Hughes starting at pg. Also, he's not a terrible player. And I think 808 never watched a Cats game to say Carroll is horrible as well. The guy actually won them some games the past season with his scoring bursts. How about watching the games people?</div>I watched seven Charlotte games and about half of the games they were playing sub .500 teams. Carroll is a decent player, but he's not starters material. He should be a guy that could come off the bench and be productive. He also needs to work on his defensive game because agile SGs were just flying right by him at the perimeter. He only averaged 12 ppg and 2 rpg, Morrison averaged 11 ppg, 2 rpg and 2 apg and he only started 23 games compared to Carroll's 47 starts. I watch basketball trust me Rok.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I watched seven Charlotte games</div>Wow 7 games. Out of 82. I understand Carroll's not starters material, my point was he's not horrible like you point out with him being worse than Morrison who had a sh*tty season. I'm huge on Ammo, but he wasn't close to what Carroll contributed to Cats when he actually started getting minutes. Like I said, Carroll provided Cats scoring in periods that ended helping them win games. More than anything Morrison did. He's a solid pro. As for my pick, I have to agree with CB on Udoka. I think of all the guys listed, he's the guy who most likely won't be in the NBA next season. I think the guy's a hardworker and can have a niche as a glue guy. But for some reason he started(weird decision to me with Webster and Outlaw who needed time for growth, especially Outlaw) and I think overall with his age at 30 and lack of key strength(doesn't excel at anything in particular), he's probably the worst.
I've have to say the hawks with tyron lue, Atlanta is in desperate need of pg, other then that they are starting to develop into a decent team. At the time I didnt see how Joe Johnson was worth all the money, but looking back at it he really has emerged as their franchise player and a great nba talent overall(though most saying Nash was his game at the time) they will be a playoff team soon, any pg is better then lue so lets see with this third pick if they finally pick a great young pg(Conley would fit good.) Atlanta is 1 real pg away from emerging. Most say the East is dead but I say the east is just planting its seed.
I don't know why everybody is naming Tyronn Lue. First of all, he's really not that bad, and second of all - he only started 17 games this season... and the only reason he did start was because Speedy Claxton was hurt all year.
Speedy's awful, I'd rather have Lue out there than Speedy. Lue really can score, he's made some clutch shots, but his height is what kills him, and he's not THAT athletic.. But good scorer, not a great PG, good spark off the bench.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LAZY @ May 27 2007, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kendrick Perkins maybe. Didnt he start around 60 games?</div>Yes, Perk is our starting center, but he certainly isn't as bad as Ime Udoka. I agree, Perk is a career backup though.
