Fire Stotts Eventually

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How good do you think Terry Stotts is a s a coach?

  1. Top 5

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    5.8%
  2. Top 10

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    28.6%
  3. Top 20

    35 vote(s)
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  4. Needs to go!

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  5. He's the very best!

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  6. Lets hope he continues to improve.

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  1. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

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    Pops
    Carlisle
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    Stevens
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    Kerr
    D'Antoni
    Rivers
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    I don't even know who's coaching DEN, PHI, TOR, MIL but they're probably better than Stotts. And I don't even particularly like half the names I listed, but they've all proven more that Stotts.
     
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    Joerger isn't any better than Stotts either is Synder. D'Antoni? Put Stotts in Houston and they be as good if not better.

    Google 2018/2019 NBA GM survey and looks at where they have Terry.
     
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    But if you watch Stotts during a game he is quite often yelling at his team (Dame) to push the ball and "Go, go, go". The fact that his team seemingly ignores these directions tells me a lot. It's not about style, it's about the lack of accountability.

    Earlier in the year a big deal was made when Stotts made the team watch 45 minutes of game film instead of the usual 0-20 minutes. Going over film is how you learn to grow and improve. You also pick up on other team's tendencies which can be a huge advantage (ask playoff Rondo about this).
     
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    Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
    Joerger definitely had MEM in a much better place than Terry has ever had the Blazers. Snyder has (had) the Jazz playing a much better style of ball than we've ever played under Terry. D'Antoni is clearly a much better offensive coach...and since Terry isn't much of a defensive coach that means D'Antoni is just plain better.

    All of them have better winning percentages in both the regular season and Playoffs. I'm not sure there's any way in which you could say that Terry is better (or equal) to any of them.

    Don't care. Like coaches, I don't have a high opinion of most GMs. It's all a good ol' boys club where the same chumps exchange jobs regardless of whether they're actually good at them. There are probably about 5 good coaches/GMs and the rest are irrelevant at best and downright awful at worst.[/quote][/QUOTE]
     
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    Everywhere MD coached he had much better talent than Portland, except maybe the year before LA left.
    Look at the job he did in NY with a mix roster much like Portland has had o0f late. He is a good offensive coach, with 2 or more super stars. Phoenix & Houston, imo, would have been as good with Stotts at the helm. I really think Terry has done more with less than many coaches.
     
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    Without Harden D'antioni wouldn't be anything. His offense run good when he has a good play maker. Houston and Phoenix he had good play maker. New York he didn't so he wasn't successful.
     
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    I don't know enough about coaches to rank really, but put I put Stotts as top 10. I would definitely pick Pop and Stevens as top the top two. IMO Stotts is the best Blazer coach since Rick Adelman. I don't think D'Antoni is anything special.
     
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    I don't dislike Stotts but some of his schemes I don't like. But really he not being dealt a good hand by Olshey with some of his roster decisions he made for this franchise. But also some of Stotts decisions he makes I have questioned on. Do I think he needs to be fire I say no right now. Due to the starting to play decent right now on both ends and that show me hasn't lost this team yet. I can see why some of you guys would like to see him to be fire. Believe me sometime I feel the same way. Do I believe another coach could make this team more successful I say no. This team is about as good as they can get right now due to the roster. They always going be between from 44-50 wins season and maybe they get in the 2nd round. That about as far this team can go without some upgrades on the roster.
     
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    I don't give two shits about Mike - I certainly wouldn't want to hire him as Terry's replacement. But anyone who watches basketball can clearly see that he has a much better understanding of offense than Terry. I think you're probably the only person on the planet that thinks PHX would have been the same had they swapped Mike/Terry.
     
  10. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Some styles of play areworse, so they can be kinda synonymous. I dont like that he doesnt have diversity in his sets, or the fact that his teams cant exploit transition opportunities, or that his offense tends to dissolve into crummy shots out of isolation. That's style of play, and also part of the reason why he's a bad coach.
     
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    Terry was the offensive guru behind Dallas's championship. Maybe he's not the better of the two offensively but he gets more out of what he has to work with then Mike does and has.
     
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    I don't buy it. Head coaches always say that shit when their assistants get hired away. When it comes to talking about their colleagues it's all blowing smoke up each others asses. Terry may have had input that lead to a single, flukey championship. But that was Carlisle's team - not Terry's. As we've seen over the past 7 (?) years, Terry is no guru.

    But again, this isn't about Mike. I don't like him at all. This is about Terry NOT being a good coach. I ran off quite a long list of coaches who are better, and somehow it's turned into a "Mike isn't better than Terry" conversation. He is better, but it doesn't even matter because Terry sucks regardless of how good or crappy Mike is.
     
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    I noticed a commentator wrote recently that on SanAntonio, only really good three point shooters take 3 point shots. Why isn't it a rule for Blazers that Turner and Nurk don't take long 2 point or 3 point shots?
     
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    Turner averages about the same amount of attempts as Derozan from the 3 point line but neither one of them shoot them very often. Turner even has a better average than Derozan.
     
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    Turner attempts 1.3 3 pointers per 36, while De Rozan attemps .9; considering that DeRozan is the primary creator for his team and therefore may be forced to take shots late in the shot clock; I think that is a significant difference.
     
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    Your splitting hairs as neither attempt very many 3 point shots.
     
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    Not to mention that he also mentioned "long 2's" along with 3's; per bbref, 12.2% of Turner's shots are 3's, and 14.1% are long 2's, so 26.3% total. It's true that Derozan shoots far fewer 3's--only 5% of his shots, but 22.9% of his shots are long 2's. So all total, 27.9% of Derozan's shots are in that less desirable category, actually a higher rate than Turner.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Pop couldn't win before Tim Duncan and he hasn't won without Tim Duncan. I'm not necessarily sold on him being a shining example of how to win.
     
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    Blazers are tearing it up against the East but are only 14-15 against the West. Since their first 3 rounds would be against the West, that doesn't strike me as particularly confidence inspiring. Stotts has been around a ~.500 coach most of his career and it's not really getting any better. Add in the 11-24 Playoff record over 11 seasons as a Head Coach and that averages out to 1 Playoff victory a year.

    That is NOT good.
     
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    LOL, ok.
     
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