Trade Ideas Thread

As I've mentioned before I don't like Gordon's game at all. I wouldn't give up a pick in that trade either. This seems more like a scenario where we just move our problems to a different position rather than address them.

 

Hopefully Olshey has the parameters of a deal in place with Atlanta and they are just waiting to see if something better comes along. I'm still worried we're waiting for Kevin Love to become trade eligible next week. If that's the case we better not overpay for him.

 

I wonder if we could get Gordon without giving up CJ. Would they do Leonard, Aminu, and our pick? This trade would save Orlando over $40M. Gordon isn’t a foundational piece for them, and they could reset by getting the three years remaining on his contract off the books.

I’m looking at this through Olsheys POV. He keeps his core together and adds a younger player with the potential to reach another level in Portland playing with a real PG. Gordons numbers compare pretty evenly to Aminu, but I think he’d be an upgrade once he got to Portland. He’s also a much better passer, shit he’s better than CJ too, and would give us an added dimension we could really use in the starting lineup.

 

I’ll say this; I’d rather add 23 year old Gordon for $40m than 30 year old Blake Griffin for $60m+. Obviously Griffin is better, but he comes with his own risks and would cost more (asset wise) to get.

 

There’s no way anyone trades for Love without seeing him play first. Not even Olshey.

 

You sure about that? I can see the press conference now:

"Look, we had a chance to add an NBA champion and 5-time All-Star. This is the needle mover I've been waiting to acquire."

 

Aaaah, I can see it! Make it stop! You're stressing me out!

 

Layman has been a revelation this year, and when he has played, Moe has been terrific on defense and serviceable on offense. With those two and CJ/Nik taking a few mins here and there, I think we are OK on the wing positions.

The glaring deficiency on our roster is an upgrade for Aminu. We need a guy who is just as versatile, but flat out better. I think his defense is really overstated.

I'd have been all over Love if he hadn't signed that extension. It's a worse contract than Blake's.

 

It's also annoying that Zach hasn't taken a leap. That PF position is his to grab but he doesn't seem to work well with Nurk .

Why are we not developing him more to be our PF of the future?

 

Would you (and others) rather have Dedmon or Thon Maker? The Bucks really want Dedmon. There are ways to make this work before Jason Smith is able to be traded using our trade exception or we could wait until Feb 6th.

Bucks get Dedmon and Swanigan

Hawks get Meyers, Baldwin, future 1st via Blazers

Blazers get Jason Smith, Thon Maker, and Taurean Prince

Both Maker and Prince have one more year on their cheap rookie deals next year and then become RFA's in 2020. Smith is expiring. This deal saves us $3 million off our tax number too. It would be even better if we had another trade with Turner or Harkless.

 

I don't know how you can possibly conclude that Collins doesn't play well with Nurk. They've barely been given a chance to play together.

 

Have to dig into the lineup stats a bit, but they seem to get in each other's way. You think he's a viable PF mainstay for our future?

 

Going into the season I was convinced he would be better suited as our PF moving forward. They have done nothing to develop chemistry between Nurk and Collins. I don't think playing PF with Leonard as the C is helping Collins at all.

 

That might be the literal end for me. I would be inclined to never watch another game of basketball!

 

A total lack of interest from the coaching staff.

 

Net ratings

Aminu + Nurk -- 1142 mins, + 10.3
Collins + Nurk -- 48 mins, +4.4

Aminu + Collins-- 125 mins, +6.4
Collins + Meyers -- 460 mins, +1.8

Not nearly enough sample size with Collins and Nurk. Baffling why they don't try it more. Someone here used the word "crutch" to describe our overuse of Aminu. It's absolutely true.

 

Yeah, the fact they've only played 48 minutes together is inexcusable. I could maybe see if Collins was being used exclusively as a center but he usually plays with Leonard so that can't be the reason. It's part of why I am not getting down on Collins yet.

 

Did they literallly copy/paste what I wrote about why we should go after Gordon in this thread last week? Holy shit.

 

Jeezus fucking kryst! 48 freaking minutes!?!

 

I think the 'noise' in those 2 man lineup stats is probably loud enough that not much should be read into them

one thing that can be read into them is that the Blazer coaches are way too stuck into rotation patterns. And they especially seem to be stuck into pairings. Last season, Davis/Zach seemed to be joined at the hip; this season, it's Meyers/Zach welded together in a milky white merger of a 'fast-twitch/slow-twitch-confusing-blob-of-doofie-ness'

The mid-way point of the season was recently passed. There should have been more experimentation with combinations of the Portlad roster, but Stotts seems locked into some baffling platoon system that has failed a lot more then it has succeeded. Even accounting for match-up issues, the Nukic/Zach pairing should have a lot more burn at this point then it does. Seems like the mindset is that it's more important for Portland to win games now than to perhaps be better prepared when the playoffs start.

another factor is that there might be less that 40 games left to Aminu's Portland tenure. Zach appears to be the heir-apparent st PF. Nurkic is definitely the COTF; the Blazers should be doing everything they can to make sure Zach actually fits as the PFOTF. Personally, I have major doubts that Zach can fit that role, but for sure, he should be getting more of a shot now than he is