Exclusive 2019 Trade Deadline Thread

Remember when Chris Webber cried because he was being traded to Sacramento? He ended up falling in love with the Fans/City, take a chance Neil.

 

Hehehehehheehehhe.

 

AD wants to go to a place where he can win rings. If we can deal for him and get to the WCF and the Lakers miss the it, maybe he can be our Paul George.

 

Dame
Matthews
Layman
Davis
Nurkic

Curry
Turner
Harkless
Mirotic
Davis and Nurk staggered

There’s your playoff rotation. There’s your western conference finals.

 

I think that is a little too ambitious to get both AD and Mirotic.

What about this:

Pelicans get CJ, Collins, Trent, 2019 Por 1st (Unprotected), and a 2019 Atl 2nd

Hawks get Solomon Hill, Nik Stauskas, 2021 Por 1st (lottery protected)

Blazers get AD, Lin, and Prince (TPE)

Atlanta gets their future 1st for taking on a bad contract. New Orleans gets out of Hill's contract as a tiny bit of extra incentive. Portland gets a guard and a wing to help cover CJ's loss in the lineup.

 

Is it really that ambitious? It’d essentially be CJ, Zach, and Simons for AD, and Aminus expiring (dash bird rights) and a first for Mirotic. Chicago had to take on Asik to get a first from New Orleans in the first place, so this is a step up imo

 

I think that 1st would have to be part of the AD side so you'd need another 1st for Mirotic (in my opinion).

 

Ok then it’s CJ, Zach, and a first for AD and then Simons and Aminus expiring for Mirotic. Remember, there were quite a few publications that projected Simons as a lottery pick next year had he went to Louisville. He’s a better asset than most late firsts.

 

That may be true but once a player gets drafted and hasn't done anything in the NBA I just don't think he has the value of a 1st rounder right now. Plus I think he's still needed on the AD side even if he has the value you are saying he has.

 

I disagree with this completely. Look at Olshey for example. He still targets players based on predraft evaluations.

 

It’s gonna be funny when AD is traded to LA and we trade for Love.

 

Trying to find diamonds in the rough or players that once had promising talent for cheap is way different than those players having the same value as when they were drafted in a trade for a star.

For example, New Orleans currently has the 10th pick. Do you think they would trade it for Zach Collins because he was picked 10th a few years ago?

 

Sure, if they liked Zach more than the guys projected to go in their range. But Zach isn’t quite the same as Simons. Simons hasn’t even played. Holding that against him, or devaluing him because of that, less than a year after he was selected, would be insanely stupid/shortsighted.

 

Since New Orleans is dumb, doesn't like to keep draft picks, and probably wants to stay somewhat competitive would it be wrong to want to trade CJ there after they trade AD somewhere else?

Something like Mirotic, Randle, 2019 1st, and 2019 2nd for CJ? Then we flip Randle to a 3rd team?

 

I'm not holding it against him that he hasn't played. I just don't think a player who was picked late in the 1st round and hasn't played would still have the value of a 1st rounder (or more) in a trade like this. I'm not so sure we could get a 1st today for Simons in a trade.

 

I’ll say the same thing about the Pelicans as I did about the Bulls last year. Good for them if they get a first for Mirotic. If Chicago couldn’t get one last year without taking on money, why would New Orleans get one when the acquiring team would have even less control over him?

 

You have a curious definition of "funny."

 

I know Chicago took on money this year too, but they were also well below the salary floor last year which meant they were going to have to pay that money whether they took on salary or not.

 

The bulls are not only paying Asik this year, but next as well.

Good luck to the Pelicans getting a first for Mirotic without taking on money. It most likely isn’t gonna happen. Getting someone like Simons would be a miracle, and I wouldn’t do it in a vacuum. But if I knew we were also getting AD? Maybe.

 

Yeah, he had one of those partial-guaranteed contracts next year which made the money less than if we sent Leonard and a 1st over. If you think about it though trading Simons and a contract for Mirotic would have been exactly what it took last year too since Simons ended up being our 1st round pick. Despite what Olshey says I don't believe our Trade Exception was ever in play because of the tax. So it would've been something like Leonard, Vonleh, and our 1st (Simons) for Mirotic.