Notice Canzano: Time for Trail Blazers to try to take Anthony Davis hostage

Looking at the past trade opportunities, I'm not upset with Olshey for not closing the deal for PG13 or Butler - it's that the rumored offer is not even a legitimate offer....

When he goes into the negotiation with the "Anybody but...." mindset, he's not even going to be part of the real discussions. I like CJ, Collins, Nurk, etc, but NONE of those players should've been "off-limits" in a deal for PG13 or Butler.

It will be interesting to see what the rumored offers are from Portland. The entire roster should be on the table, including Dame (although Dame would be an absolute last resort, without any additional ancillary pieces).

 

exactly...he doesn't make serious offers

I'm still amused how so many people thought that Portland making all 3 of their 1st's available for PG13 while making CJ untouchable was a good offer. It was a joke considering what Indy was offering, and the 'three firsts' leak look either like ass-covering spin or a GM so damn blind to value he couldn't recognize how off-base he was

 

Steve Smith was traded for with Jim Jackson and Isiah Rider going to Atlanta. Anderson was also acquired in a trade and coincidentally it was Kerr and Anderson coming to Portland for Steve Smith.

 

It's getting kind of old having you repeat this over and over. Sure they would've had to use the picks wisely but...

Would you rather have Donovan Mitchell, John Collins, and Kyle Kuzma or Oladipo and Sabonis? Oladipo had a very average career at that point and Sabonis was coming off a rookie year in which he did very little to show that he'd be a good player? Offering 3 picks in that draft was a good offer, your continually saying it wasn't doesn't change that fact.

 

LOL...why is it that Portland didn't draft those guys?? Indiana already had the 18th pick in the draft and they took TJ leaf, so pretty obviously, just like Portland they weren't seeing the value in Collins and Kuzma

and the Blazers couldn't have drafted both Mitchell and Collins...it was one or the other

your continuous insistence that it was a "good offer" needs to account for what else was offered. It's true, we don't know exactly what it was, but it could have been Turner or Meyers + Harkless, or even, Meyers + Aminu, or Harkless + Davis. How is that better than Oladipo + Sabonis?

 

No, but indiana could have. Mitchell at 10, assuming the same swap, Collins at 18, kuzma at 24.

 

of course, they could have. But they had an opportunity to draft both Collins and Kuzma but didn't, so 2/3rds of that doesn't fly. Portland could have John Collins, Kuzma, and Josh Hart...but they didn't see the value there. They could have Mitchell and Kuzma but they didn't see that value either. If Portland was blind to the future possibilities of those three picks, why would Indiana's vision be any better?

 

I specifically said they would've had to use their picks wisely. The opinion that they would've blown it doesn't change the fact that there was indeed potential value in the picks they would've gotten plus you have other factors like then they would've been really bad last year and added a high lottery pick instead of making the playoffs and losing in the first round, stuff like that. I still think their current team has a relatively low ceiling and they should've went all in on a rebuild but that's another topic.

 

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or troll you, but when I suggest that Portland's 3 firsts didn't have the value to really get into the deal when attached to one or more of Portland's bad contracts, and you counter by setting the value of those 3 picks as Mitchell + Collins + Kuzma it's not a realistic conversation any more. That's just going all fantasy about the maximum possible value those picks could have had...in hindsight. Portland didn't have the vision to see it and it's unrealistic to expect the Pacers to have predicted the future any better

 

Same old Canzano. He has no idea of what the Blazers are discussing about Davis, but he can spin the yarn as if Olshey lacks the guts to try to make a deal. When Davis goes somewhere else, Canzano gets to preen around as if he knew something when, in fact, 28 other teams won’t get AD either.

 

Yeah I'm sure AD wants to come to a team he swept last year. That makes a ton of sense.

 

You people have no clue what he offers or what was on the table so quit talking out of your ass.

Reading this forum you'd think we were in last place in the conference. No wonder I come here less and less. I get dumber every time I do.

 

Absolutely not last in the conference. Although tied for last in the last two years in Playoff wins....

 

Oh, well in that case I guess we should blame the GM for made up bullshit.

 

That wasn't a blame statement and not sure what you are referring to. It is just what happened.

 

Fuck your post

 

Given I quoted what I was referring to in my original post, I'm a little taken aback that you don't know what I'm referring to...

 

Ahh, I see the confusion. You mistakenly took me for someone who has the time to read every post. Sorry, I missed something. Which is what the "not sure what you are referring to" is commenting on. Hopefully my lack of free time doesn't have you taken aback too much.

 

I responded to someone else (with their quote), and then you responded to my message. It required - quite literally - only reading the post to which you were responding to, Mr. 10.6k messages in 5 years.