I did a draft simulator on realgm.com and here's the id for it 164564, check it out. Everyone is thinking Atlanta will take Conley but I think it would be much smarter for them to take a center. They have Lue, Claxton, Salim, and Ivey and really don't need another point guard. They lack a big inside presence and from what I hear about Yi he can be that. And then with the 11th pick I got them taking Law which is the point guard they claim they need. That's killing two birds with one stone imo. And then I got Conley going to memphis, Stoudamire is old and Atkins will leave so Conley would be good there. I don't know about Noah going so high to Boston but didn't know anyone else to give them.
Yi is not a center, he's actually a SF in a 7 foot body. The only center at the top of the draft is Greg Oden, who is obviously going #1. The next center is Spencer Hawes, who will be likely taken in the 8-14 range. The top prospects in this draft are forwards, except Oden and Conley. Also, if the Celtics keep the pick and take Noah at 5, I'll slit my wrists.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 31 2007, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man I hope we dont draft Conley. I want Brewer, Horford or Yi.</div> For some reason, Grizzlies fans don't seem to like/want Brandan Wright. Why is that? He's got the most potential of anybody not named Oden or Durant and he fits the running style.
Im not sure. I wouldnt mind having him, but I think ATL will probably take him. Plus, we've desperately been trying to keep Gasol at the 4, and get a C. Yi is more of a C than Wright is IMO. Im still a huge Brewer fan, and just trade Miller.And watching Wright, hes got the most potential but man can he make some stupid plays. Im not sure I want another "potential" pick.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 31 2007, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yi is not a center, he's actually a SF in a 7 foot body. The only center at the top of the draft is Greg Oden, who is obviously going #1. The next center is Spencer Hawes, who will be likely taken in the 8-14 range. The top prospects in this draft are forwards, except Oden and Conley.Also, if the Celtics keep the pick and take Noah at 5, I'll slit my wrists.</div> 7'0 makes you a center in this league lol. Zaza could slide over to center and have Yi play power forward. I just don't really see anything for Boston to really take, I would trade down and then pickup Gray, Hawes, Horford later. Horford isn't a center but he can score in the paint. Or trading the pick for a veteran wouldn't be all that bad imo either, they have enough young guys.
I think Horford is a center. Size is so overrated, so what hes 6'9, hes still going to be physically stronger than most of the other centers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 31 2007, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man I hope we dont draft Conley. I want Brewer, Horford or Yi.</div> I think Brewer would fit that system very nice but they have no point guard really with Damon Stoudamire being old and can't stay healthy and then Atkins who'll probably leave. I think Conley would be the best option for them. And as for Atlanta taking Wright, I think they have enough players that play just like Wright which will prevent them from taking him. Atlanta needs a big man or a point guard.
I don't see how Yi could fit in with the Grizz. I don't see how he can fit in with anybody. Maybe I'm just not too sold on his talent. And I do agree that Memphis shouldn't take Wright either to keep Gasol at PF, plus they have Swift, but they don't have much of a choice because Yi isn't much of a center either. Man, Roy Hibbert is missing out on some good draft position
If this played out I'd be very happy with Detroit getting J. Wright and Afflalo. Then get rid of Delfino, move Flip to point guard and problem solved.
I have actually heard a rumor where we swap picks with chicago, we get the 9th and Duhon and they get the 4th. Then we draft Julian Wright or something. That would be crazy.Kyle Lowry is going to be atleast a solid PG. If he gets a outside shot, he can be very good. Watching him play, he looked nothing like a rookie. And we also have alotve cap to sign some type of PG if its a major one or just a nice/solid one.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 31 2007, 02:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Im not sure. I wouldnt mind having him, but I think ATL will probably take him. Plus, we've desperately been trying to keep Gasol at the 4, and get a C. Yi is more of a C than Wright is IMO. Im still a huge Brewer fan, and just trade Miller. And watching Wright, hes got the most potential but man can he make some stupid plays. Im not sure I want another "potential" pick.</div> You don't want a potential pick, but you want Yi? That doesn't make much sense. And Yi may be 7'0'', but he is NOT a center, and he certainly can't play center in the NBA. He's very slim, he's a player that is agile, athletic, and can play on the outside. He's not a good defender and he's not anywhere near strong enough to play the 5 spot in the NBA. If you did end up with Yi, he would be the 4 and Pau would be the 5, there's no doubt about that. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>7'0 makes you a center in this league lol. Jefferson could slide over to center and have Yi play power forward. I just don't really see anything for Boston to really take, I would trade down and then pickup Gray, Hawes, Horford later. Horford isn't a center but he can score in the paint. Or trading the pick for a veteran wouldn't be all that bad imo either, they have enough young guys.</div> - 7 feet does not automatically make you a center in the NBA, especially not in Yi's case. All 215 lbs. of him. - Jefferson can play the 5, I wasn't referring to Yi in Boston in my last post. If we did get Yi, I doubt he'd even start right away anyway. - Trade down and get Gray, Hawes, or Horford later? Horford is a likely top 5 pick, Hawes is a lottery pick that needs a lot of time to develop, and Aaron Gray? He's pushing the 2nd round here. - We need a veteran. Our last resort move would be to keep the pick and take Wright/Horford/Yi with #5.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 31 2007, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You don't want a potential pick, but you want Yi? That doesn't make much sense. And Yi may be 7'0'', but he is NOT a center, and he certainly can't play center in the NBA. He's very slim, he's a player that is agile, athletic, and can play on the outside. He's not a good defender and he's not anywhere near strong enough to play the 5 spot in the NBA. If you did end up with Yi, he would be the 4 and Pau would be the 5, there's no doubt about that.</div>Really, I dont want either. I want Brewer, and if not him Horford. Nobody else(of course besides Oden/Durant)I want in the draft except maybe Julian Wright...but theres not place on our team for him.But you misunderstood what I said, before wright I would take Yi...not saying I want him most, I would just rather take a chance on him than Wright.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 31 2007, 02:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Really, I dont want either. I want Brewer, and if not him Horford. Nobody else(of course besides Oden/Durant)I want in the draft except maybe Julian Wright...but theres not place on our team for him.</div> You say there isn't a place on the team for Julian Wright, yet you want Corey Brewer? They are both 3's (as is Rudy Gay and Mike Miller), and Julian can actually play some 4 to go with it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 31 2007, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>- 7 feet does not automatically make you a center in the NBA, especially not in Yi's case. All 215 lbs. of him.- Jefferson can play the 5, I wasn't referring to Yi in Boston in my last post. If we did get Yi, I doubt he'd even start right away anyway.- Trade down and get Gray, Hawes, or Horford later? Horford is a likely top 5 pick, Hawes is a lottery pick that needs a lot of time to develop, and Aaron Gray? He's pushing the 2nd round here.- We need a veteran. Our last resort move would be to keep the pick and take Wright/Horford/Yi with #5.</div> It was a joke about how everyone is going small these days. And yeah I made a mistake, I meant to say Zaza and not Jefferson, I got him in my mock draft going to Atlanta not Boston. Atlanta plays small ball already as it is, so a guy like Yi could possibly fit in with them. I don't think Horford is top 5 pick, if Atlanta passes on him I think he'll slip a little bit to 9. I've never personally seen Hawes but I heard some good things about him so I'm not sure with him and with Gray I have him going to NY at 23, first because zeke always screws up their pick and they need a big body. You may be right though, I wouldn't be surprised at all of Gray fell to 2nd round which he most likely will.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DTP @ May 31 2007, 02:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It was a joke about how everyone is going small these days. And yeah I made a mistake, I meant to say Zaza and not Jefferson, I got him in my mock draft going to Atlanta not Boston. Atlanta plays small ball already as it is, so a guy like Yi could possibly fit in with them. I don't think Horford is top 5 pick, if Atlanta passes on him I think he'll slip a little bit to 9. I've never personally seen Hawes but I heard some good things about him so I'm not sure with him and with Gray I have him going to NY at 23, first because zeke always screws up their pick and they need a big body. You may be right though, I wouldn't be surprised at all of Gray fell to 2nd round which he most likely will.</div> Yi is not a 5 at all, not even on a small-ball team. He may be 7 feet, but he has the skill set of a combo forward. He's not strong enough to play the 5 at all, I don't care if he's 7'0''. Also, Isiah actually has a good eye for talent and he has done an excellent job drafting. And why don't you think Horford is worthy of being a top 5 pick? He's solid all around, strong, a winner, a hard worker, and get this... he plays defense (seems to be rare nowadays).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 31 2007, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You say there isn't a place on the team for Julian Wright, yet you want Corey Brewer? They are both 3's (as is Rudy Gay and Mike Miller), and Julian can actually play some 4 to go with it.</div>last thing we need is another 4.But like I said, if we do draft Brewer we would trade Miller. Theres no place for either, but IMO Brewer is a definete all-star caliber player(of course not right away tho),and I would be willing to trade Miller for a spot for him. Im only basing drafting Brewer if we tarde Miller. It would be outragous to draft Brewer or Wright if we keep Miller.Btw, I think its b/s your saying Yi cant play center. All he needs is some more weight and he'll be set. Not saying he will be capable his rookie season, but he most likely will get bigger and in a season or 2 he will be able to play center. He wont be your traditional center..but how many teams still have one?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 31 2007, 02:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yi is not a 5 at all, not even on a small-ball team. He may be 7 feet, but he has the skill set of a combo forward. He's not strong enough to play the 5 at all, I don't care if he's 7'0''. Also, Isiah actually has a good eye for talent and he has done an excellent job drafting.And why don't you think Horford is worthy of being a top 5 pick? He's solid all around, strong, a winner, a hard worker, and get this... he plays defense (seems to be rare nowadays).</div> I said move Zaza to 5 like he already is and then have Yi come off the bench and backup Smith or whatever, and its not like he can't bulk up. And I just think out of those 5 teams none of them need Horford right now, yeah Atlanta and Milwaukee possibly but I like Horford falling at 9 to Chicago. Also, Isiah actually has a good eye for talent and he has done an excellent job draftingLee and Frye were solid...
No, Isiah is a very good drafter. Look up his draft history and its been successful for the most part.
[quote name='austingriz' post='368867' date='May 31 2007, 02:35 AM']last thing we need is another 4.[/quote] You contradict yourself SO MUCH it's not even funny. You don't want a "potential" pick, but you want Yi Jianlian. You don't want a 4, but you want Horford or Yi. You don't think there is room for Julian Wright, but you think there is room for Corey Brewer? They are both SF's. Horford is a 4. Yi is a skinny 4. Trading Miller and his $27M over the next 3 years is tougher than it sounds. And Brewer is not a guaranteed All-Star.. especially in the West. For Yi to be able to play the 5 in the NBA, he'd have to add 30-35 lbs., toughen up, and really work on his back to the basket game. He's a face-up agile combo forward... I can't wait until BCB (or valo, anybody) sees this to back me up and tell you how ridiculous it is for Yi Jianlian to play center in the NBA. [quote name='DTP' post='368871' date='May 31 2007, 02:40 AM']Also, Isiah actually has a good eye for talent and he has done an excellent job drafting Lee and Frye were solid...[/quote] Renaldo Balkman has turned out be a good pick and Mardy Collins was a steal. David Lee was more than a solid pick, he's a double-double every night, and he got him at the very end of the 1st round.
