My thoughts exactly. Olshey actually thinks the Blazers can win a title as they are, with a little tinkering around the edges. It’s ridiculous.
He’s milking the team, if anyone on here got paid millions to be average you would be average. Why rock the boat when he knows they aren’t making any changes till new ownership takes over, as long as he doesn’t gamble and lose(again) he’s safe and the checks keep coming. I dislike him.
There isn't a poster here (including me) who has any fucking clue as to what is really offered, and what is realistic.
Funny, I had just the opposite reaction. It seems like he thinks we suck, so make incremental improvements until we're only "1 player away". Either way, I agree it's ridiculous.
True but there are multiple ways we could've gotten expiring contracts based on deals that did happen.
This post should be a sticky to remind everyone of this as it becomes hilarious how some posters seem to think they know all the inner workings that go on behind closed doors regarding trades. It's the main reason I don't get worked up like some before the deadline.
This is probably as close to an approximation as your ever going to get on film. Michael Lewis was in the room with Billy Beane and Paul DePodesta. My guess is that the inner workings of front offices go a lot like this. A lot of that movie's portrayal of baseball was wrong but the characterizations were pretty good. Even if they had to change DePodesta's name for legal reasons.
That was a good movie and interesting to see some of the inner workings even though it was hollywoodized. The Kevin Costner film Draft Day was also an enjoyable movie, but I think the part the Wizard is getting at is that we don't know what was offered for player A and why it might have been rejected. Posters seem to prefer to make up their own scenario to fit their narrative rather than admit they don't know.
Yeah. I see what your saying. What I like about that movie is a lot of the factors being talked about are relevant to the Blazers situation. 1. Beane trading a player he knows the franchise wants and the coach adores 2. Depodesta worrying it will cost then their jobs. I read the book and the movie portraits of the main characters are amazingly accurate. Aaron Sorkin was just brought in to toughen up the dialog. But your absolutely right about the factors concerning the trades themselves. We can guess how they talked based on their personalities. But what they talk about or who with... look at the AD situation. They were fielding calls from around the league telling them not to cave in. So we as fans have no idea.
Trading Harkless and Meyers Leonard for Hassan Whiteside is not swing for the fences. It’s still a very calculated low risk trade. So was Bazemore for Turner. They’re good trades but they’re not swing for the fences.
Whats the risk? He’s traded expirings for other expirings. Good deals no doubt but not exactly super risky.
Oh come on. Give some credit where its due. Everyone said he would need to attach picks to get rid of Turner, and leonard. He did so without. Haters gonna hate......
I really don't care if a deal is classified as a high risk high reward swing for the fence type. I like deals that make us a better team and so far it appears that's what Olshey has done in a extremely short time. Homerun hitters typically strike out a lot. That's why I was a huge Rod Carew and Tony Gwynn fan. They hit singles and doubles all day long into the hall of fame.
Frank Thomas is a rarity. Big bomber with a great average. I agree with you though. NO deserves some credit man!
He did give NO credit, he said, “they’re good trades”, what he’s arguing is the risk involved in making those moves. They really arent high risk moves, which is perfectly fine if NO can make good moves that are low risk without giving up future assets thats a good thing.
I understand. It isn't just this thread or the comment in the OP or title . Its the lack of credit NO gets from some period. So I think he deserves some for turning around 2016 that everyone said he fucked us on. Guess what? Not one of those contracts are now on the books and wee have better players than they were. Sometimes the roller coaster is a long ride, but in the end, it sure seems to have been a great one over all.
