Explain Layman, please.

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  1. BoomChakaLaka

    BoomChakaLaka Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Curry better figure it out - or he’s not going to help. He is a small 2 and doesn’t handle the point well; he can’t penetrate. No handles.
     
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    Both pretty clueless. Curry is playing himself off this team. Not because he is playing bad either.
     
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    This team is dying for a non-small player who is enough of a threat to score that you can't leave them, but can also defend and facilitate a bit.
     
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    Curry is a SG who can guard PGs. IMO we have three players who can play SG off the bench. (Besides the rookies)

    ET (on D)
    Curry (on O)
    Hood ( O and D)

    Plus you have CJ if Terry wants to go back to the "staggering" lineup. I am not sold on that. I would prefer a

    ET, Curry, Hood, Jake, Kanter line-up
    or
    ET, Hood, Jake, Collins, Kanter line-up
     
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    my first reaction thinking about Layman at SG is "what about defense"?

    then I remember Portland is in the 4th season with CJ as the starting SG and he's bad at defense just about all the time. Layman probably wouldn't be worse, and quite possibly be better

    as for trading CJ....Olshey is the obstacle

    but we can dream. I know he has a lot of detractors, a lot because of contract, but how about a lineup of

    Dame
    Layman
    Harkless
    Blake Griffin
    Nurkic.....?

    would the Pistons even consider a CJ for Griffin swap? probably not without a lot of incentive
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I was thinking about the same a couple hours ago. I had to stop because I'm at work and the response was inappropriate in public.
     
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    Yes please!
    CJ + ET + 2019 pick => Griffin
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Fuck no. That won't make us a better team.
     
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    I do want Griffin, but I think the only hope is Det decides to blow it up and trades him at the deadline to us for expirings/picks/and most likely Zach(which I’m not sure about). It would give us Dame/CJ/Griff for 1.5 seasons together and Blake’s contract only goes 1 year longer than CJ/Dame, and he would be expiring at age 33. My point is he would be very productive in his years here.

    Dame/Draft Pick
    CJ/Trent/Simons
    Hark/Layman
    Griffin/Chief
    Nurk/Kanter

    I know that ^ is pretty much impossible but that would be a serious contender imo.

    I have Hood/Curry leaving in FA
    And ET/Leonard/Zach/2 1s for Griffin
    And draft a backup pg(if the rest of the above happened)
     
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    Sounds like you are describing ET. He shoots 50% from 2 pt range, and can defend and facilitate........ "a bit".
    Or did you mean "you can't leave him alone at the 3 pt line"?
     
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    How do you figure?

    When comparing the 3 players, Blake has the best statistics in almost every category... Blake is a legitimate All-Star and a contender for All-NBA teams.

    - CJ is good, but not great.
    - ET is meh.
    - The pick is a mid-20s pick.
    - We have other options at SG that would not be much of a drop-off from CJ (Jake, Hood, or Reggie Bullock in FA).
    - We'd save approx. $12M next year giving some (not a lot) flexibility in keeping a decent bench.
     
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  12. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Blake is constantly injured. I want to stay away from that.
     
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    All true, when healthy and playing. He has neither age nor history to provide a reasonable expectation that his play will be anywhere commensurate with his outsized long-term contract.

    Pass. Talk about crippling our options for a long time, his contract vs health history makes ET look like a downright bargain.

    Pass. Pass. Pass. Long-term anchor hoping for short-term result.

    Gramps...
     
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    In other words, he's very nice to have, but he's not a savior.

    I won't talk about laywoman because I don't want to talk about a certain poster's wife...
     
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    It's the quality coffee the staff serves the team before the game. Before he preferred DeCaf. Check it out the Blazers are Caffeine fiends.
     
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    We are all screwed when he gets his acting career.
     
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    Yes, he's been a little injury prone, but you're making it out to seem like he misses half his games.

    In Blake's 8.5 years in the league, he's had:
    * 1 year where he played less than 70% of his games (the '15/'16 season).
    * 4 years where he's played between 70%-80% of his games; and
    * 4 years where he's played +90% of his games (including this year so far).

    Eliminating the '15/'16 season, he averages approximately 68 games per year (or 83%). This is almost identical to what Anthony Davis plays/misses. The last 3 years, Dame has averaged 75 games a year. I guess that's just not that big of difference to me to balk as such a HUGE talent upgrade....
     
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    Layman doesn't have the ball handling ability to be a SG.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    And Klay Thompson does? And Danny Green does? And Eric Gordon does? And Gary Harris does? Etc etc.
     

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